No Conditioning Tests to Start Camp

[Genghis Khan]

Hey [MENTION=24]mschmidt64[/MENTION] , check this shit out.

 

[L.T. Fan]

It also tells me that they have zero respect for their coach and his wishes.

I see it more of a big brother move by some of the veterans. They want to know that their team mates are serious about the season. Simply because the coach wasn't going to require it they wanted to be sure about their peers.

 

[Genghis Khan]

So, how do we gauge the players conditioning prior to camp? Aren't condition tests pretty common?

I'm a little flummoxed by this. I am under the impression that every team does it. Yet we're the only team, apparently, that thinks it's harming players. And I'm assuming the players don't agree since they are doing it anyway.

 

[Cotton]

I see it more of a big brother move by some of the veterans. They want to know that their team mates are serious about the season. Simply because the coach wasn't going to require it they wanted to be sure about their peers.

If the coach said they weren't going to do something, they shouldn't have done it.

 

[jsmith6919]

So, how do we gauge the players conditioning prior to camp? Aren't condition tests pretty common?

Don't like this, it's saying they think there are so many injury prone players lets not even risk it, it's coaching scared to me

 

[1bigfan13]

I thought all teams ran conditioning tests prior to camp.

Also, regarding Garrett's "recipe for disaster" comment, I get why he'd be apprehensive about having the test considering all the leg injuries the Cowboys have dealt with over the past few years, but I don't think there is a correlation between the conditioning test and strained hamstrings and groins. As I mentioned, most of the other teams still run the test and they're not plagued by hamstring/groin injuries. Our problem is most likely due to our off-season program. That's what needs to be relooked.

 

[L.T. Fan]

If the coach said they weren't going to do something, they shouldn't have done it.

Maybe so but I don't think he prohibited it. This isnt the first time a group or team has utilized a self help method to something that has been discontinued.

 

[Cotton]

Maybe so but I don't think he prohibited it. This isnt the first time a group or team has utilized a self help method to something that has been discontinued.

The coach said, "We aren't doing this because I think it's a recipe for disaster", and the players did it anyway. Sounds cut and dry to me.

 

[L.T. Fan]

The coach said, "We aren't doing this because I think it's a recipe for disaster", and the players did it anyway. Sounds cut and dry to me.

I don't hear a prohibition nor have I heard any repercussions. I think they took the same position and said let's do it. Wouldn't be the first time a group of young men tested the boundaries.

 

[Cotton]

I don't hear a prohibition nor have I heard any repercussions. I think they took the same position and said let's do it. Wouldn't be the first time a group of young men tested the boundaries.

The prohibition was when the coach said, "I think think this is a recipe for disaster". I don't know about you, but if my boss said that, I wouldn't proceed with what he said was a bad mistake in the making. You preach about following boss' orders, but you abandon that theme here. I don't agree with that.

 

[Carp]

Sounds like a motivated group of players, which is what we have been asking for...but hey, let's bitch and moan.

 

[L.T. Fan]

The prohibition was when the coach said, "I think think this is a recipe for disaster". I don't know about you, but if my boss said that, I wouldn't proceed with what he said was a bad mistake in the making. You preach about following boss' orders, but you abandon that theme here. I don't agree with that.

Who did Garrett say this to? The media, the team? Can we just assume the team even knew he said it?

 

[boozeman]

Dallas Cowboys coach Jason Garrett doesn’t view player-organized conditioning test as act of defiance

By Rainer Sabin



rsabin@dallasnews.com
3:00 pm on July 24, 2014 |

OXNARD, Calif. — In the universe the Cowboys inhabit, where every quote is parsed and each bit of news is reported, it’s no surprise the subject of conditioning tests remains a hot one.

On Tuesday, head coach Jason Garrett explained why the Cowboys were not holding them, calling the fitness exams, when administered on the eve of training camp, a “recipe for disaster.”

In the case of left guard Ron Leary, he may not have been exaggerating. Leary was one of approximately 75 players who elected to do conditioning tests at Valley Ranch on Monday without the coaches’ supervision even after Garrett expressed reservations to the team about holding them before it disbanded following the June minicamp. During one of the runs Monday, Leary suffered a slight hamstring strain and now is on the active/physically unable to perform list.

Garrett didn’t view the decision of the players to hold the conditioning test on their own as an act of defiance even though it seemed to go against his plans, which included a team run Tuesday.

“A lot of our players live in Dallas,” Garrett said. “They lift together. They run together. They throw together. I think it was probably just an extension of that. Guys are trying to get ready to play football. You see it around the league. Sometimes, these kinds of things happen.”

Garrett said he expects Leary to return to the field Tuesday.

“You always want to be out here when [camp] starts,” Leary said. “But it’s something minor.”

Still, this entire episode has created a bit of a kerfuffle that Garrett has spent time trying to downplay.

“What we wanted to do as an organization is not have a conditioning test the day before we go out to practice football,” he said. “I expressed that to the players on our team and that’s how we operated. Whatever guys do to get to this point is their decision to get there. We laid a great foundation in the offseason to get our team ready. And I feel like guys are ready to go.

Except Ron Leary.