Jernigan Reportedly Red-Flagged At Combine

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Saw on Twitter he failed a drug test. Mettenberger had a diluted sample.
 

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Saw on Twitter he failed a drug test. Mettenberger had a diluted sample.
I just don't understand how these guys are on the verge of making millions, and just can't put the pipe down for a couple months.

I don't give a single fuck about whether or not it should be legal. The point is, right now it's not. So use your God damn head.
 

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From Glazer:

Just posted for Foxsports that more than 10 players flagged this yr at combine drug test. Biggest names Timmy Jernigan, mettenberger as @ProFootballTalk said and DT Anthony Johnson
 

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Report: Timmy Jernigan had a diluted sample at the Scouting Combine

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 5, 2014, 6:24 PM EDT



Timmy Jernigan of Florida State, one of the top defensive tackles in this year’s NFL draft, tested positive for a diluted urine sample when submitting to drug testing at the Scouting Combine, according to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports.

Jernigan is coming off a very good 2013 season in which he was one of Florida State’s top defensive players during their march to the national championship. He has first-round talent.

But this news could affect Jernigan’s draft stock. Jernigan was initially slated to attend the draft, but last week the NFL announced that Jernigan would not attend.

Glazer reports that other players who were on a list given to NFL teams as having failed Combine drug tests in February were LSU defensive tackle Anthony Johnson, University of Miami tackle Seantrel Henderson and Florida State linebackers Telvin Smith and Christian Jones. As we previously reported, LSU quarterback Zach Mettenberger submitted a diluted urine sample, which he attributes to drinking a lot of water to combat dehydration while rehabbing a torn ACL.

UPDATE 8:11 p.m. ET: FOX Sports initially reported that Jernigan had a failed test but later updated that report to say that Jernigan had a diluted sample.
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I just don't understand how these guys are on the verge of making millions, and just can't put the pipe down for a couple months.

I don't give a single fuck about whether or not it should be legal. The point is, right now it's not. So use your God damn head.
No doubt. In the past I have quit for periods of time for far less lucrative jobs in order to pass a test. Gotta tell ya...not that tough, even for someone who enjoys it. Just shows awful judgement.
 

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No doubt. In the past I have quit for periods of time for far less lucrative jobs in order to pass a test. Gotta tell ya...not that tough, even for someone who enjoys it. Just shows awful judgement.
He definitely has a really small head.
 

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Diluted sample can happen to anybody who is hydrating for the combine.
 

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Diluted sample can happen to anybody who is hydrating for the combine.
Not really. When it is so diluted that it basically is not capable of being tested, it is an attempt to mask something. Pot, PEDs whatever. That is why it is treated about like a positive screen.
 

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Not really. When it is so diluted that it basically is not capable of being tested, it is an attempt to mask something. Pot, PEDs whatever. That is why it is treated about like a positive screen.
I agree. Once liquids have gone through your system it's real 100% piss no matter how much you have drank. Diluted status reeks of tap water subsidies.
 
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I have clients who love their "herbal tea's" from GNC but it bites them in the ass almost every time. Just stupidity. Pot isn't so good that it makes me want to risk millions of dollars.
 

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Not really. When it is so diluted that it basically is not capable of being tested, it is an attempt to mask something. Pot, PEDs whatever. That is why it is treated about like a positive screen.
Unfortunately, not all dilute urine specimens are evidence of drug users trying to cheat the test. There are many reasons for urine specimens to be dilute, including disease states, medical advice, habits of fluid consumption, and types of fluid consumed by normal people living normal lives.
 

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Unfortunately, not all dilute urine specimens are evidence of drug users trying to cheat the test. There are many reasons for urine specimens to be dilute, including disease states, medical advice, habits of fluid consumption, and types of fluid consumed by normal people living normal lives.
Sorry, don't buy it. And I doubt NFL teams do either. I'd say the majority are suspicious.

I might get for a guy rehabbing (like Mettenberger, who supposedly has evidence from a physician).

But Jernigan was relatively healthy and what exactly would be his reason for overhydrating?
 

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Sorry, don't buy it. And I doubt NFL teams do either. I'd say the majority are suspicious.

I might get for a guy rehabbing (like Mettenberger, who supposedly has evidence from a physician).

But Jernigan was relatively healthy and what exactly would be his reason for overhydrating?
That's basically my understanding. A diluted test should be able to repeated to show that there is a medical reason for it and not a sign of covering up for drugs.
 
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Kids are giving drug tests in college. Compare his samples with those. Are they all dilluded? If so, at least there's a baseline for him to claim a medical reason. Of course, it also could show a long history of use.
 
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Sorry, don't buy it. And I doubt NFL teams do either. I'd say the majority are suspicious.

I might get for a guy rehabbing (like Mettenberger, who supposedly has evidence from a physician).

But Jernigan was relatively healthy and what exactly would be his reason for overhydrating?
FL is hot and he's been working out. Nm that N. Florida has routinely been around 70 degrees or lower the last 4 months.
 

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[h=3]Cowboys keeping Jernigan on board[/h]May, 6, 2014

By Calvin Watkins | ESPNDallas.com

The Dallas Cowboys are still keeping Florida State defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan on their draft board, at least for now, according to multiple sources despite a positive drug test because of a diluted urine sample.

Fox Sports reported Jernigan tested positive at the scouting combine in February along with several other players, including LSU defensive tackle Anthony Johnson and Florida State linebackers Telvin Smith and Christian Jones.

ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter confirmed LSU quarterback Zach Mettenberger also tested positive for a diluted urine sample.

Normally, the Cowboys will take a player off their draft board for a positive drug test.

Jernigan is projected as a low-first round to high-to-middle second-round pick. He was one of 30 prospective players to visit Valley Ranch as part of the Cowboys’ allotment of national visits.

The Cowboys do like his ability to take on double teams and pressure the pocket, but with new defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli, the team doesn’t put a high regard on 1-technique players.

Last month, in a radio interview on 105.3 The Fan Dallas/Fort Worth, Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones said Jernigan was a great football player, however, “if a player’s ceiling may be a 1-technique, it may be hard for him to make our first round."

Jernigan’s agent, Sunny Shah, didn’t return a call seeking comment on Jernigan’s failed test.
 
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