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I'm fine with that.
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I can't wait for us to draft Kyle Fuller.
Go get him, Jerry!
Go get him, Jerry!
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Don't laugh. Rob Phillips' article suggests we snag a CB in the first round since Carr will be a cap casualty next year.
We are getting so trolled.
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Well Minny supposedly wants out of that spot. Jerry loves to trade. So....
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Probably a part of the reason we are hearing second round for him now. Which I would do in a heart beat and not think twice. Hell of we could trade down, get Ford and Jernigan and stack up some extra second/third round picks, this D-line would look world's different next year.
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Bill Polian calls recent Vikings visitee Bryn Renner the ‘quarterback sleeper’ in draft
By Chris Tomasson
ctomasson@pioneerpress.com
If the Vikings were hoping to keep their like for Bryn Renner a secret, the cat, or should we say the Tar Heel, might be out of the bag.
Renner, a quarterback from North Carolina, visited Minnesota recently in preparation for the May 8-10 NFL draft. He’s considered a late-round pick, but ESPN analyst and former NFL executive Bill Polian singled him out Monday in a conference call.
“Bryn Renner to me is the quarterback sleeper (in this week’s draft),’’ said Polian, a six-time NFL executive of the year.
Polian said he didn’t have details about how the right-handed Renner has recovered after hurting his left shoulder last season, but he really liked what he saw from him before the injury. Renner missed the final five games last season with a torn labrum but threw at the combine in February and last week told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel he’s 100 percent
The Vikings might not draft a quarterback with the No. 8 pick in the first round. They might instead look to grab one in a later round.
“He’s got good arm strength,’’ Polian said of Renner. “He’s got good release. He’s got good poise. He’s got some escapability. Not great, but some. I like his field generalship. He can make all the throws, and I think that had he had a complete senior year and not had this unfortunate injury get in the way, you’d be talking a lot more about Bryn Renner than we are in the media right now.’’
Renner, whose father Bill Renner, punted for Green Bay in 1986-87, threw 28 touchdown passes and had just seven interceptions as a junior in 2012 for the Tar Heels while throwing for 3,356 yards. In seven games as a senior, he had 10 touchdowns and five interceptions with 1,765 yards.
Polian called Renner a guy he “would tag on my draft board’’ and that he’s a player teams “need to keep track of.’’
While the most likely scenario remains the Vikings taking a quarterback at some point in the draft who is rated higher by most analysts than Renner, he is a guy they are keeping tabs on.
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I while back I said, mostly tongue in cheek, that Bryn Renner would be the first QB taken in this draft.
I didn't actually expect it, but I do think he could end up being an underrated guy. Wouldn't surprise me to see him have a career in the league. He was better at Carolina than he got credit for.
By Chris Tomasson
ctomasson@pioneerpress.com
If the Vikings were hoping to keep their like for Bryn Renner a secret, the cat, or should we say the Tar Heel, might be out of the bag.
Renner, a quarterback from North Carolina, visited Minnesota recently in preparation for the May 8-10 NFL draft. He’s considered a late-round pick, but ESPN analyst and former NFL executive Bill Polian singled him out Monday in a conference call.
“Bryn Renner to me is the quarterback sleeper (in this week’s draft),’’ said Polian, a six-time NFL executive of the year.
Polian said he didn’t have details about how the right-handed Renner has recovered after hurting his left shoulder last season, but he really liked what he saw from him before the injury. Renner missed the final five games last season with a torn labrum but threw at the combine in February and last week told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel he’s 100 percent
The Vikings might not draft a quarterback with the No. 8 pick in the first round. They might instead look to grab one in a later round.
“He’s got good arm strength,’’ Polian said of Renner. “He’s got good release. He’s got good poise. He’s got some escapability. Not great, but some. I like his field generalship. He can make all the throws, and I think that had he had a complete senior year and not had this unfortunate injury get in the way, you’d be talking a lot more about Bryn Renner than we are in the media right now.’’
Renner, whose father Bill Renner, punted for Green Bay in 1986-87, threw 28 touchdown passes and had just seven interceptions as a junior in 2012 for the Tar Heels while throwing for 3,356 yards. In seven games as a senior, he had 10 touchdowns and five interceptions with 1,765 yards.
Polian called Renner a guy he “would tag on my draft board’’ and that he’s a player teams “need to keep track of.’’
While the most likely scenario remains the Vikings taking a quarterback at some point in the draft who is rated higher by most analysts than Renner, he is a guy they are keeping tabs on.
Follow Chris Tomasson at twitter.com/christomasson
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I while back I said, mostly tongue in cheek, that Bryn Renner would be the first QB taken in this draft.
I didn't actually expect it, but I do think he could end up being an underrated guy. Wouldn't surprise me to see him have a career in the league. He was better at Carolina than he got credit for.
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Lucky for you there is a 0.0% chance Manziel is there at 16, and probably not much better of a chance that he's even there at 8.
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Trade up for a converted RB who has only played in a 3-4? What's wrong with that?
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I'd be ok with him at 16 though. He did go to a PAC 12 school.
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From Tony Pauline:
NFL Draft News & Notes: May 5th
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T-minus four days and counting until the late starting 2014 NFL Draft gets underway. Here’s the latest from inside the War Rooms.
The courting of potential UDFA’s is well underway with scouts and coaches around the league contacting the players they hope to get a chance to sign after the draft. The Baltimore Ravens have sent a quick 25-second video which features a message from head coach John Harbaugh to a number of players.
Several sources tell me the number one target for the Baltimore Ravens in round one is tight end Eric Ebron, a player they’ve coveted for quite some time. Could Ebron slide to the 17th pick? I was told earlier this evening the New York Giants maybe souring on Ebron due to many of the personality red flags we’ve reported on this site since November. The other obstacle for the Ravens are the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team we’ve mentioned several times as a suitor for Ebron.
I’m told to expect the Ravens to grab a running back by the time the fourth round closes out. Two names I’ve heard connected with the team for a while are Jeremy Hill of LSU in round two or possibly Terrance West in the fourth frame. Hill has been drawing rave reviews from scouts for his underrated pass catching skills. The Tennessee Titans and Atlanta Falcons are another pair of teams hot after Hill.
If the New Orleans Saints look for a safety late in the draft I’m told there’s a distinct possibility it will be Jonathan Dowling of Western Kentucky, whom they view as the perfect compliment to Kenny Vaccaro.
A number of teams think there’s a real chance Shayne Skov goes undrafted this weekend. As one director of college scouting said, “He’s a good guy but slow with major medical red flags. The whole (pre-draft) process has hurt him.”
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I think there may be something to the Skov thing. I have not read much if any buzz around him during the process.
That usually is not good. When a guy is highly regarded there is reported "interest" that can be noted.
Most if not all of the top 150 that most can agree upon have had multiple reported team visits and workouts.
Other guys that seem "quiet" are:
Timmy Jernigan - visited just Dallas, Tennessee and Seattle
Lamarcus Joyner - Dallas and Tampa Bay
David Yankey - Giants and San Francisco
Trent Murphy - Green Bay, San Francisco and Atlanta
Travis Swanson - none
Antonio Richardson - Carolina, Jacksonville and Washington
Chris Smith - Kansas City and Minnesota
Anthony Johnson - none
Bishop Sankey - none
Ed Reynolds -- Atlanta and Detroit
DaQuan Jones - New Orleans
Terrence Brooks - Green Bay, Pittsburgh and Detroit
Kelsy Quarles - Chicago and New England
Daniel McCullers - Atlanta
Lache Seastrunk - Buffalo and Pittsburgh
Ego Ferguson - New England
Craig Loston - none
Anthony Steen - none
Victor Hampton - Tampa Bay
Chris Watt - Chicago
Christian Kirksey - Cincinnati and Philadelphia
So teams are either keeping real super quiet or there might be a problem with these guys.
Now I know that teams bring guys in for visits to check out issues, feign interest and stuff, but these are glaring examples. Most players have five or more visits, these are very noticeable when compared to the others overall.
Yeah, it is not a scientific process and I could have missed stuff, but you can trip over most of these reports. All of these guys were very much invisible.
Should be interesting to see if what I believe is the case where you can identify "fallers" based off of this.
NFL Draft News & Notes: May 5th
5
May
T-minus four days and counting until the late starting 2014 NFL Draft gets underway. Here’s the latest from inside the War Rooms.
The courting of potential UDFA’s is well underway with scouts and coaches around the league contacting the players they hope to get a chance to sign after the draft. The Baltimore Ravens have sent a quick 25-second video which features a message from head coach John Harbaugh to a number of players.
Several sources tell me the number one target for the Baltimore Ravens in round one is tight end Eric Ebron, a player they’ve coveted for quite some time. Could Ebron slide to the 17th pick? I was told earlier this evening the New York Giants maybe souring on Ebron due to many of the personality red flags we’ve reported on this site since November. The other obstacle for the Ravens are the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team we’ve mentioned several times as a suitor for Ebron.
I’m told to expect the Ravens to grab a running back by the time the fourth round closes out. Two names I’ve heard connected with the team for a while are Jeremy Hill of LSU in round two or possibly Terrance West in the fourth frame. Hill has been drawing rave reviews from scouts for his underrated pass catching skills. The Tennessee Titans and Atlanta Falcons are another pair of teams hot after Hill.
If the New Orleans Saints look for a safety late in the draft I’m told there’s a distinct possibility it will be Jonathan Dowling of Western Kentucky, whom they view as the perfect compliment to Kenny Vaccaro.
A number of teams think there’s a real chance Shayne Skov goes undrafted this weekend. As one director of college scouting said, “He’s a good guy but slow with major medical red flags. The whole (pre-draft) process has hurt him.”
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I think there may be something to the Skov thing. I have not read much if any buzz around him during the process.
That usually is not good. When a guy is highly regarded there is reported "interest" that can be noted.
Most if not all of the top 150 that most can agree upon have had multiple reported team visits and workouts.
Other guys that seem "quiet" are:
Timmy Jernigan - visited just Dallas, Tennessee and Seattle
Lamarcus Joyner - Dallas and Tampa Bay
David Yankey - Giants and San Francisco
Trent Murphy - Green Bay, San Francisco and Atlanta
Travis Swanson - none
Antonio Richardson - Carolina, Jacksonville and Washington
Chris Smith - Kansas City and Minnesota
Anthony Johnson - none
Bishop Sankey - none
Ed Reynolds -- Atlanta and Detroit
DaQuan Jones - New Orleans
Terrence Brooks - Green Bay, Pittsburgh and Detroit
Kelsy Quarles - Chicago and New England
Daniel McCullers - Atlanta
Lache Seastrunk - Buffalo and Pittsburgh
Ego Ferguson - New England
Craig Loston - none
Anthony Steen - none
Victor Hampton - Tampa Bay
Chris Watt - Chicago
Christian Kirksey - Cincinnati and Philadelphia
So teams are either keeping real super quiet or there might be a problem with these guys.
Now I know that teams bring guys in for visits to check out issues, feign interest and stuff, but these are glaring examples. Most players have five or more visits, these are very noticeable when compared to the others overall.
Yeah, it is not a scientific process and I could have missed stuff, but you can trip over most of these reports. All of these guys were very much invisible.
Should be interesting to see if what I believe is the case where you can identify "fallers" based off of this.
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Rumors fly that Bucs are trying to move up to No. 2
Posted by Mike Florio on May 6, 2014, 5:45 PM EDT
There aren’t all that many juicy rumors flying as the draft approaches. But here’s a good one.
There’s chatter in league circles that the Buccaneers could end up being the team that moves up to No. 2 from No. 7.
It’s unclear what it would take to make the leap by five spots. It’s also unclear who/whom/whatever the Bucs would target with the second pick.
After the trade of receiver Mike Williams and the age (31) of Vincent Jackson, the Bucs could use a receiver like Sammy Watkins. But then there’s Johnny Manziel, who with a stout Lovie Smith defense would be fascinating in Tampa.
Posted by Mike Florio on May 6, 2014, 5:45 PM EDT
There aren’t all that many juicy rumors flying as the draft approaches. But here’s a good one.
There’s chatter in league circles that the Buccaneers could end up being the team that moves up to No. 2 from No. 7.
It’s unclear what it would take to make the leap by five spots. It’s also unclear who/whom/whatever the Bucs would target with the second pick.
After the trade of receiver Mike Williams and the age (31) of Vincent Jackson, the Bucs could use a receiver like Sammy Watkins. But then there’s Johnny Manziel, who with a stout Lovie Smith defense would be fascinating in Tampa.