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Is there a good reason that his numbers don't back that up at all?
Yes, they don't make a stat for everything. He's in the backfield constantly, but if the ball is handed off and diverts the runner enough to where someone else makes the tackle, what stat does he get? None, but he still made that play happen.

Go back and watch some of his games. He's disruptive.
 
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Yes, they don't make a stat for everything. He's in the backfield constantly, but if the ball is handed off and diverts the runner enough to where someone else makes the tackle, what stat does he get? None, but he still made that play happen.
Just curious since other DT's tend to rack up far more TFL and sacks. Even when healthy he wasn't doing much of that.
 

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Yes, they don't make a stat for everything. He's in the backfield constantly, but if the ball is handed off and diverts the runner enough to where someone else makes the tackle, what stat does he get? None, but he still made that play happen.
Nuh uh. What about his numbers? Huh?

If you have watched Easley at any great length, it is clear he's a disruptive player.
 

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Nuh uh. What about his numbers? Huh?

If you have watched Easley at any great length, it is clear he's a disruptive player.
And I haven't, it's why I asked. Just seems odd that a guy who is supposedly so disruptive wouldn't be making more plays in the backfield.
 
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And I haven't, it's why I asked. Just seems odd that a guy who is supposedly so disruptive wouldn't be making more plays in the backfield.
Donald has way better sack numbers, but Easily is more of a complete player in terms of holding up against the run. He's able to penetrate or at least push the interior OL back off their blocks consistently. And yes, I'm going to play the "played against better competition" card, but only cause your anti-SEC bias is showing. :art
 

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And I haven't, it's why I asked. Just seems odd that a guy who is supposedly so disruptive wouldn't be making more plays in the backfield.
You can say he didn't finish the plays himself and that is a little bit of a criticism, but he clearly had impact.

Not a one of these other guys not named Donald, Hageman, Nix, Tuitt etc. and be considered as disruptive.
 

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Donald has way better sack numbers, but Easily is more of a complete player in terms of holding up against the run. He's able to penetrate or at least push the interior OL back off their blocks consistently. And yes, I'm going to play the "played against better competition" card, but only cause your anti-SEC bias is showing. :art
Not an SEC bias. I'm actually a pretty big fan of Quarles who was able to rack up 9.5 sacks this last season in the SEC along with 13.5 TFL. Hageman for example only had 2 sacks this past year but he was extremely disruptive. Of course that's why he had 13 tackles for loss. Easley on the other hand in his best season only had 8.5 tackles for loss.

Now admittedly I didn't watch a lot of Florida games. I've watched clips of Easley but none of them are very impressive to me. Not saying I don't like Easley but I'm just wondering why he is this top rated first round DT if not for the injury. Maybe I just have a Florida bias though. I had the same questions about Floyd last year as well who didn't have very good numbers either. Of course Floyd wasn't very impressive as a rookie.
 

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Easley is very disruptive and has more position flexibility than both Donald and Floyd.

He could play DE on a 3 man line, situationally, as well as both the 1 and 3 techniques.
 

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South Carolinas DT Kelcy Quarles and CB Victor Hampton have both been cleared of all wrongdoing by police in a NYC nightclub fight, reports TMZ.

The pair had been under suspicion by the New York City Police Department for a possible role in April 11's brawl at the Greenhouse nightclub. Apparently, Quarles and Hampton were part of a group who objected to marijuana being smoked. Quarles is a Day 2 prospect. Jadeveon Clowney wasn't the most productive USC DL last season. Quarles led the Gamecocks in sacks (9.5) and tackles for loss (13.5) in 2013.


Source: TMZ.
 
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@Andy_Fenelon: Hearing #SMU QB Garrett Gilbert could get drafted as high as 2nd round. I know, I said same thing (w/out expletives).

You know it's us.
 

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@Andy_Fenelon: Hearing #SMU QB Garrett Gilbert could get drafted as high as 2nd round. I know, I said same thing (w/out expletives).

You know it's us.
So Ealy, Gilbert, and a TE in the 3rd...would not be surprised
 

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I'll believe this shit when I see it.
 

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Scout: Jimmy Garoppolo’s fade passes could be “the best I’ve ever seen”

Posted by Mike Wilkening on May 2, 2014, 12:43 PM EDT

For draftniks who like wonky things, we’ve got something for you.

In Bob McGinn’s breakdown of the 2014 quarterback class in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, an unnamed scout gave Eastern Illinois quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo high praise for his passing inside the 20.

Garoppolo, the scout told McGinn, was “(maybe) the best I’ve ever seen throwing fades,” calling Garoppolo “lethal in the red zone.”

Passing near the goal line is only but a small part of a quarterback’s job. However, with bigger receivers in vogue around the NFL, an ability to give pass catchers optimal opportunities to go up and get the ball is a good skill to have.

Regarded as a prospect with a chance to be taken in the first two days of the draft, Garoppolo will get a chance to show that his best red zone work in the Ohio Valley Conference translates to football’s major leagues.
 

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Scout: Jimmy Garoppolo’s fade passes could be “the best I’ve ever seen”

Posted by Mike Wilkening on May 2, 2014, 12:43 PM EDT

For draftniks who like wonky things, we’ve got something for you.

In Bob McGinn’s breakdown of the 2014 quarterback class in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, an unnamed scout gave Eastern Illinois quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo high praise for his passing inside the 20.

Garoppolo, the scout told McGinn, was “(maybe) the best I’ve ever seen throwing fades,” calling Garoppolo “lethal in the red zone.”

Passing near the goal line is only but a small part of a quarterback’s job. However, with bigger receivers in vogue around the NFL, an ability to give pass catchers optimal opportunities to go up and get the ball is a good skill to have.

Regarded as a prospect with a chance to be taken in the first two days of the draft, Garoppolo will get a chance to show that his best red zone work in the Ohio Valley Conference translates to football’s major leagues.
That's good. I like this kid but the fade route is on my list as the most detested passing routes.
 

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I am wondering if Bridgewater is going to slip to 47?
 
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