Fisher: How Austin Release Will Impact Cowboys’ Cap

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For the record I think it's probably for the best that we aren't breaking the bank on free agents. You are better off filling in with solid players usually. Your break the bank superstars ideally come through the draft.

I don't think we are filling in with solid players, though, either. Our signings so far feel less like Kyle Kozier and more like Phil Costa.

And of course our biggest problem by far is that we haven't drafted well enough.
Would totally agree with this. You use FA to find backups/rotational players/stop gaps (also called bridge players). You use them to get you through till you can draft a future starter at that position.

You aren't looking for starters (1st teamers) here. You are looking for guys that can contribute wherever.
 

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In other words, if Ware had 12 sacks last year and Austin had 1000 yards they'd both be here still. They would just be kicking the can down the road again.
Yes. It would be production that you are paying for and it would be worth it. When the production stops and the money is still expected, that's when you have to make a decision.
 

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Would totally agree with this. You use FA to find backups/rotational players/stop gaps (also called bridge players). You use them to get you through till you can draft a future starter at that position.

You aren't looking for starters (1st teamers) here. You are looking for guys that can contribute wherever.
Free agency can be used to find starters. That way you can enter the draft with a clean perspective.
 

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Free agency can be used to find starters. That way you can enter the draft with a clean perspective.
And less holes to fill. The idea that you don't look for starters in FA is silly.
 

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Yes. It would be production that you are paying for and it would be worth it. When the production stops and the money is still expected, that's when you have to make a decision.
But, you said we aren't paying age anymore. Had Ware been productive we would have paid age yet again like we have done numerous times before. That was Geng's point, and he's right.
 

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Would totally agree with this. You use FA to find backups/rotational players/stop gaps (also called bridge players). You use them to get you through till you can draft a future starter at that position.

You aren't looking for starters (1st teamers) here. You are looking for guys that can contribute wherever.
Holy shit...this is fucking retarded. Umm yeah, you look for starters in FA...they are not just place holders. Teams like NE and Den sure seem to be adding some starters this offseason, but hey, you got this figured out.

I'd be willing to bet if we had signed legit FA starters you'd be singing a different tune.
 

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Holy shit...this is fucking retarded. Umm yeah, you look for starters in FA...they are not just place holders. Teams like NE and Den sure seem to be adding some starters this offseason, but hey, you got this figured out.

I'd be willing to bet if we had signed legit FA starters you'd be singing a different tune.
Maybe hstour is the one putting together our plan.
 

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We could very easily sign Melton to a modest deal, 5 years, 25 million, 10 million signing bonus, 2 million guaranteed first year base salary, 4 million first year cap hit. Increase the base salaries as the deal progresses, Romo's albatross deal won't be around much past the 2016 season so cap space won't be an issue late in the deal anyway.
 

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Free agency can be used to find starters. That way you can enter the draft with a clean perspective.
Correct. While it may be nice to say "I'd draft for BPA no matter what holes I have," we all know damn well that if we have a dire need along the DL, our front office will take inferior DL players over superior OL players, just based on need alone.

Signing a couple starting caliber players (though non-break-the-bank guys) would be prudent if for no other reason than to relieve the front office of the pressure to draft on need.

I agree, free agency isn't for breaking the bank. But you'd like it to fill your needs.

So far we haven't done that -- though admittedly, because our bank was so badly broken, we can't do much better than this.
 

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If FA is for bridge players (also called stop gaps/rotational players/backups) and the draft is for special teams, when do we work on our starters?
 
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If FA is for bridge players (also called stop gaps/rotational players/backups) and the draft is for special teams, when do we work on our starters?
UDFA's invited to rookie camp. Duh.
 

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Something tells me hstour trusts in this process Garrett's always babbling about.
No, I trust in a process. The Garrett one may not work.

But it is far better than the Jerry grab the bright shiny object on that we have lived through for multiple years.

Wouldn't you agree?
 

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For the record I think it's probably for the best that we aren't breaking the bank on free agents. You are better off filling in with solid players usually. Your break the bank superstars ideally come through the draft.

I don't think we are filling in with solid players, though, either. Our signings so far feel less like Kyle Kozier and more like Phil Costa.

And of course our biggest problem by far is that we haven't drafted well enough.
So totally agree with this.....
 
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No, I trust in a process. The Garrett one may not work.

But it is far better than the Jerry grab the bright shiny object on that we have lived through for multiple years.

Wouldn't you agree?
Of course I agree that having a process would be great. But I don't trust that there is a competent one at this point.
 

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Of course I agree that having a process would be great. But I don't trust that there is a competent one at this point.
Like I said, it may not work, but it is better than no process.
 

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So far we haven't done that -- though admittedly, because our bank was so badly broken, we can't do much better than this.
They signed the only two DL they could afford and got good value in each case.

They almost have to get Melton, and if they do they will have three injured players they are counting on in Melton, Crawford, and Lee.

This team's management is shit terrible. Looking at this roster, how in God's name can they be up against the cap? The two most talented players, Tyron Smith and Dez Bryant, are still on their rookie deals. Where the fuck did all the money go?
 
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