2025 Season | Week 14 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Dallas Cowboys @ Detroit Lions | 12/4/25

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CJ Stroud had it. Punt forced.

Defense couldn’t give up even 7 yards for possible FG and netted -2 yards

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I wouldn’t start with winning percentage, especially with the first several years as expansion skew winning %. What’s the comparison for division titles, playoff appearances, playoff wins?
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I think it's very valid since neither have had much postseason success, and in a 23 year time period there has been plenty of time for Houston to catch up.

Nevertheless, I wouldn't do division titles since the AFC South has been significantly worse in that time span compared to the NFC East. I would venture to guess that Dallas would have a handful more playoff appearances and division titles if they played in the AFC South and the Texans would have a bunch less if they were in the NFC East. In fact, every playoff appearance for Houston from what I'm seeing has been a division title.

Even still, the Cowboys have a bunch more playoff appearances - Dallas has 13, Houston has had 8. Houston has had 6 playoff wins to the Cowboys 4.

Summed up, the Cowboys have had significantly more success in the regular season (by any metric, top 8 winning percentage in a 25 year span is pretty successful and much better than the Texans 27th), have a bunch more playoff appearances (13 to 8), and slightly less playoff wins (6 to 4).

I think it's pretty inarguable that Dallas has a good bit more success in this century than Houston.
 
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I think it's very valid since neither have had much postseason success, and in a 23 year time period there has been plenty of time for Houston to catch up.

Nevertheless, I wouldn't do division titles since the AFC South has been significantly worse in that time span compared to the NFC East. I would venture to guess that Dallas would have a handful more playoff appearances and division titles if they played in the AFC South and the Texans would have a bunch less if they were in the NFC East. In fact, every playoff appearance for Houston from what I'm seeing has been a division title.

Even still, the Cowboys have a bunch more playoff appearances - Dallas has 13, Houston has had 8. Houston has had 6 playoff wins to the Cowboys 4.

Summed up, the Cowboys have had significantly more success in the regular season (by any metric, top 8 winning percentage in a 25 year span is pretty successful and much better than the Texans 27th), have a bunch more playoff appearances (13 to 8), and slightly less playoff wins (6 to 4).

I think it's pretty inarguable that Dallas has a good bit more success in this century than Houston.
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In any case, original point remains. Even if Texans had better regular season win % and playoff appearances, today they still feel like a JV franchise
 
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Should be a compilation made of perfect Mahomes passes dropped.
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Thinking of the Super Bowl vs Bucs where Mahomes threw it sideways midair and it hit Tyreek Hill in the facemask at the goalline

Floater bomb after some crazy scramble dropped on final drive like 4th and 20 vs Bills regular season several years ago

Tonight add both Rice’s drop and Kelce’s drop to interception to end the game
 
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I think it's very valid since neither have had much postseason success, and in a 23 year time period there has been plenty of time for Houston to catch up.

Nevertheless, I wouldn't do division titles since the AFC South has been significantly worse in that time span compared to the NFC East. I would venture to guess that Dallas would have a handful more playoff appearances and division titles if they played in the AFC South and the Texans would have a bunch less if they were in the NFC East. In fact, every playoff appearance for Houston from what I'm seeing has been a division title.

Even still, the Cowboys have a bunch more playoff appearances - Dallas has 13, Houston has had 8. Houston has had 6 playoff wins to the Cowboys 4.

Summed up, the Cowboys have had significantly more success in the regular season (by any metric, top 8 winning percentage in a 25 year span is pretty successful and much better than the Texans 27th), have a bunch more playoff appearances (13 to 8), and slightly less playoff wins (6 to 4).

I think it's pretty inarguable that Dallas has a good bit more success in this century than Houston.
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I’ve only seen Grok quoted here. Nobody uses ChatGPT here? Is Grok better?
 
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Reid is obviously an all timer HC but that decision to go for 4th deep in their own end directly led to the loss tonight. Crazy decision.
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For the last several years, Chiefs have made plenty of moves to improve their WR and OL, but failed as team has progressively worsened.

Humiliated in Super Bowl and now missing playoffs
 
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I’ve only seen Grok quoted here. Nobody uses ChatGPT here? Is Grok better?
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I've never used Chatgpt. My wife uses it and I suspect they're similar for most things but I don't quite trust Chatgpt. I've of course used the Google AI and I'm not impressed.
 
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Don’t need my opinion about the Texans, the NFL subtlety admits it. :lol

ChatGPT - the Houston Texans have played all of their playoff games on Saturdays, none on Sundays. Since their total playoff-game count is 14, and 8 of those are wild-card games (all on Saturday), that leaves 6 other playoff games (divisional rounds) — and none of those appear scheduled on Sunday
 
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Don’t want Bills winning a SB, Ravens/Chiefs essentially eliminated, don’t want a UNC QB winning SB to spite smitty. Am I really pinning my hopes on a QB named Bo or this JV franchise with the stupidest alternate uniforms to beat potential NFC rival?

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I’ve only seen Grok quoted here. Nobody uses ChatGPT here? Is Grok better?
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Their ads are so bad, I wouldn't use it. You need to do curls and eat a lot of protein plus a list of about 20 other things in order to train to do a few chinups? Or you need it to plan a simple little road trip with a family member? Sure, Jan.
 
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