Micah Parsons Traded To Packers

[ravidubey]

Nobody should be buying it. Its horseshit. If DT was so important there were 2 top ones available at pick 12. Also I'm sure something could have been addressed in FA even if it wasnt the top ones.

This truly pissed me off, but I guess Jerry felt he had to protect his investment in Dak.

And the kid has shown he can pass block, at least.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Do we GAS what Joe Fan or ESPN has to say?

And Clark DID make the probowl in 2019, 2021, and 2023 (when he had 7.5, not 7 sacks). He was dinged in 2024, but that is a good track record.

Some of these NT types play a long, long time. I don't know how they do it, but some of them do it. Maybe Clark will be one of them.

 

[boozeman]

 

[boozeman]

 

[Simpleton]

It's just funny to hear him talk like the first round picks were just a kicker in the deal. No Kenny Clark was the kicker in the deal. And I feel kind of bad for Clark because he isn't a savior. He is just a good veteran player. But trading Parsons for him will never look like a good idea and trying to portray it that way is going to lead Joe fan into being disappointed in Kenny Clark if he isn't a 7 sack probowl DT.

Anyway here is to hoping Love gets knocked out and Parsons fake back injury becomes real. Because thats the only way those picks crack the top 20.

The Packers are interesting, I could see them anywhere from about 12 wins and the 2 seed in the conference to 8-9 and just out of the playoffs.

They were 9-8 in 2023, then went 11-6 last year while playing probably the weakest division in the league (AFC South) where they went 4-0. This year they're playing arguably the best division in the league (AFC North) instead, and assuming everything else is more or less a wash in terms of their division and the other NFC teams they play, that could easily be a 2 game swing that knocks them down to 9-8 with a pick around probably 18. They went 2-2 against the AFC West in 2023.

I don't think Parsons automatically elevates them from 11 wins to 13 in some sort of linear fashion. They lost their best DT, their best WR has a Jones fracture which would normally knock someone out about 6-8 weeks (same injury as 2015 Dez), their best skill position player is Josh Jacobs who is 27 but has had a huge workload over his career (averages nearly 300 carries a year over 6 seasons) and could drop off at any moment, they also have arguably the worst CB's in the league which doesn't seem to be a great combination in a division with Justin Jefferson/Addison, St.Brown/Williams/LaPorta and DJ Moore/Odunze.

They're a good team, and should probably be in the playoffs, but I think they're closer to being a borderline team that misses the playoffs than they are to a powerhouse like the Bills, Ravens and Chiefs.

Parsons doesn't elevate them to that level given everything else.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

FWIW, the Vegas line moved us down a half-win and GB up a half-win after the trade.

This idea that any football player outside of a great QB is worth 2-3 wins is kind of crazy.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Simpleton]

It's pretty laughable to say we're better today with Clark instead of Parsons unless you really believed Parsons would sit out multiple games and/or halfass it when he plays.

Could we be better off in the future with the extra picks?

Obviously, but you'd have to be braindead to think we're better off in a 1:1 situation.

 

[Cujo]

And Wisconsin’s state income tax further reduces the disparity

 

[Simpleton]

If that's true I understand them telling Parsons to fuck off.

They shouldn't have even offered that much to begin with.

 

[Cujo]

FWIW, the Vegas line moved us down a half-win and GB up a half-win after the trade.

This idea that any football player outside of a great QB is worth 2-3 wins is kind of crazy.

The line for next week’s game only went up to -7.5. I figured it would be around 10 or 12

 

[Cowboysrock55]

They're a good team, and should probably be in the playoffs, but I think they're closer to being a borderline team that misses the playoffs than they are to a powerhouse like the Bills, Ravens and Chiefs.

Parsons doesn't elevate them to that level given everything else.

I mean I really hope you're right. I don't think they are a legit Superbowl team even with Parsons. I just don't feel that great about their offense in all honesty. Love is a good QB but not great. They are just a young team that I find it hard to believe will be taking steps backwards.

Honestly their offense is full of good but not great players. Good WR's but no Lamb or even Pickens caliber guys (Unless Golden is a stud). Jacobs is a good but not special RB. But ultimately their head coach sort of elevates them because I think he is a hell of an offensive coordinator.

And frankly I would have said similar things about their defense before Parsons. They have a number of good players on defense but no one special. Of course now that changes with Parsons.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

The line for next week’s game only went up to -7.5. I figured it would be around 10 or 12

Oddly enough the line should have gotten better. Parsons wasn't going to be ready to play in that game. Assuming Clark is, we added a good run stopping DT and lost nothing for that game. Of course we still lose. And the rest of the season is what we are all really concerned about. I seriously doubt Dallas is ready for week one regardless of who plays in that game.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I think we're forgetting who the real losers are in all this.

The Dallas area foot models.

 

[Cujo]

Oddly enough the line should have gotten better. Parsons wasn't going to be ready to play in that game. Assuming Clark is, we added a good run stopping DT and lost nothing for that game. Of course we still lose. And the rest of the season is what we are all really concerned about. I seriously doubt Dallas is ready for week one regardless of who plays in that game.

But you also have to factor in the locker room. I doubt they’re brimming with confidence after a move like this.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Schottenheimer was complimentary of Parsons’ time in Dallas but feels the team is better today.

There's no way he believes that.

 

[Simpleton]

I mean I really hope you're right. I don't think they are a legit Superbowl team even with Parsons. I just don't feel that great about their offense in all honesty. Love is a good QB but not great. They are just a young team that I find it hard to believe will be taking steps backwards.

Honestly their offense is full of good but not great players. Good WR's but no Lamb or even Pickens caliber guys (Unless Golden is a stud). Jacobs is a good but not special RB. But ultimately their head coach sort of elevates them because I think he is a hell of an offensive coordinator.

And frankly I would have said similar things about their defense before Parsons. They have a number of good players on defense but no one special. Of course now that changes with Parsons.

Like anything else in the NFL there's going to be some variation and randomness, which is why I could see them anywhere from 8-12 wins.

But assuming that the pick will be 25 or worse I think is definitely off. I think they're probably about 50% to be 18-25, 20% to be 13-17, 20% to be 26-32 and 10% to be 1-12.

 

[boozeman]

 

[boozeman]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Oh, Schotty.