Hamas attacks Israel

Smitty

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So a friend of mine made a great point.

He said he doesn't think Trump wants a war, but that Israel was pressuring and pressuring him into one. And when Israel started trying to play the "But they'll get Nukes!" argument, Trump basically decided to bomb Iran to SPITE Israel.

As in... "There. We bombed their nuke sites. Now they have no nukes. Happy? Now you can stop bitching about a war because they don't have nukes anymore."

Basically calling Israel's bluff. If the nuke argument is off the table, there's no more need for a war, and Trump with one strike, Top Gun Maverick-style, took Israel's argument for a prolonged offensive off the table as well.

Kinda brilliant in a "no bullshit, I get things done and screw the consequences," type way, which is exactly what Trump is always about. He just says and does shit and doesn't play the games.

Which is what everyone always says they want a politician to be, by the way.

His "neither country knows what the fuck they are doing," comment this morning strengthens this view IMO.
 

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So a friend of mine made a great point.

He said he doesn't think Trump wants a war, but that Israel was pressuring and pressuring him into one. And when Israel started trying to play the "But they'll get Nukes!" argument, Trump basically decided to bomb Iran to SPITE Israel.

As in... "There. We bombed their nuke sites. Now they have no nukes. Happy? Now you can stop bitching about a war because they don't have nukes anymore."

Basically calling Israel's bluff. If the nuke argument is off the table, there's no more need for a war, and Trump with one strike, Top Gun Maverick-style, took Israel's argument for a prolonged offensive off the table as well.

Kinda brilliant in a "no bullshit, I get things done and screw the consequences," type way, which is exactly what Trump is always about. He just says and does shit and doesn't play the games.

Which is what everyone always says they want a politician to be, by the way.

His "neither country knows what the fuck they are doing," comment this morning strengthens this view IMO.
Very good chance this is correct.

At the very least this shows that he isn't some stooge of Israel like people were claiming. He's obviously very pissed at them.
 

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It is a Pentagon intelligence assessment that was leaked and acknowledged by the press secretary even though she said it was "flat out wrong". I guess she would know better. :shrug
I wonder where the DIA is getting their information at? I seriously doubt the facilities weren't destroyed that we hit. Now is the Uranium still out there? Completely possible. I mean there was an obvious period where Iran should have been thinking about moving it and apparently it wouldn't be hard to move with like 10 trucks.
 

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I look forward to the clutching of pearls over this.


But this Israel/Iran thing got me to thinking... Imagine President Kamala Harris and Vice President Tim Walz and how they'd handle this.

Yikes.
You mean, turn a blind eye to it for a few years and act like nothing is there and then dive into a full scale war after Iran has nuclear capability to make the warmongers happy?
 
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