Explosions rock Boston Marathon; several injured

[Smitty]

I don't give two shits about anything Obama has done except for his shitty efforts with regards to the economy. He has done nothing to improve our economic prospects long term, in fact he has made them worse. Obama has no idea about economics or he just doesn't care. Did Bush suck as well? Yep.

Obama and Bush have basically done the same thing with the exception of passing Obamacare.

People who talk about it like there has been a difference should be ignored.

 

[Carp]

No problem with what those cops did there. Props again to all the law enforcement involved.

 

[Carp]

If they search there house and it is secure, how is that a false sense of security?

 

[VA Cowboy]

I don't think we need to scrap search and seizure laws just because we think the situation deems it appropriate.

 

[Cotton]

If they search there house and it is secure, how is that a false sense of security?

Don't get in the way of the social injustice crowd. They have rights.

 

[Cotton]

No problem with what those cops did there. Props again to all the law enforcement involved.

Oh, and I absolutely agree.

 

[Cotton]

I don't think we need to scrap search and seizure laws just because we think the situation deems it appropriate.

What would you have the cops do? Wait for the lunatics to turn up at Costco? Proactive is the absolute only way to hunt them. I applaud the balls it took to completely shut down public transportation in Boston while they hunted. They had to have taken a lot of shit.

 

[Cotton]

MY RIGHTS THO!

 

[Cowboysrock55]

MY RIGHTS THO!

You're right, the cops should be allowed to just ignore individuals rights any time they feel it is necessary to catch a criminal.

 

[Clay_Allison]

It's funny how some people think the bill of rights should be subject to suspension at any time. 4th amendment? Whatever. We don't need no stinking warrants.

 

[Cotton]

Terrorists have changed things. They have taken away some of our rights. Things have to be changed when it comes to how to deal with them. This ain't your grandaddy's country anymore. The bad guys have assured that. You want to be pissed about your rights being violated, get pissed because the terrorists are being treated as citizens like you.

 

[BipolarFuk]

MY RIGHTS THO!

OK to police practically beating down your door, forcing you out of your home with your hands up, all without a warrant.

Goes nuts over a toothless gun law bill that would expand background checks to online and gun show sales.

Some rights is more important than others, isn't dat right, officer?

 

[BipolarFuk]

TERRORISTS!!! THEY RUINING THE COUNTRY!!

Terrorist is what the fucking big army calls the little army.

 

[NoDak]

I don't agree. Once you start making exceptions for when a right can or can't be violated, you're opening the door to do away with them completely. Read this shitbag his rights, allow him to get some scumbag lawyer that will take the case, find him guilty, execute his ass. Sucks that it will be a long, drawn out, expensive ordeal. But I'd rather that then the alternative.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Terrorists have changed things. They have taken away some of our rights. Things have to be changed when it comes to how to deal with them. This ain't your grandaddy's country anymore. The bad guys have assured that. You want to be pissed about your rights being violated, get pissed because the terrorists are being treated as citizens like you.

So Terrorists taking away some of my rights justifies the police taking more of them? DOES NOT COMPUTE

Terrorists suck but lets not pretend like it is an epidemic on US soil. They account for an absolutely tiny amount of the total deaths in America.

 

[Cotton]

It's funny how some people think the bill of rights should be subject to suspension at any time. 4th amendment? Whatever. We don't need no stinking warrants.

What if your neighbor in Boston got his home invaded by a terrorist, and said terrorist had a bomb on him. The police had damn good intel he was in the neighborhood. Would you be cool with the cops backing off and waiting on a judge to issue a search warrant before the cops raided? Or would you like the cops to take prudent measures to make sure your neighbors house hadn't been compromised and make sure your house remains safe?

Did anyone get injured by these cops raiding? Did anyone get gunned down that shouldn't have? Or are you just being overly sensitive in a time that the cops can't exactly act inside normal protocol if the mission is apprehending and ending the threat as fast as they possibly can?

 

[Cotton]

I don't agree. Once you start making exceptions for when a right can or can't be violated, you're opening the door to do away with them completely. Read this shitbag his rights, allow him to get some scumbag lawyer that will take the case, find him guilty, execute his ass. Sucks that it will be a long, drawn out, expensive ordeal. But I'd rather that then the alternative.

I'm not arguing due process anymore. Some are saying that we should wait for search warrants before we search for terrorists in people's homes.

 

[Smitty]

It's funny how some people think the bill of rights should be subject to suspension at any time. 4th amendment? Whatever. We don't need no stinking warrants.

Get it right, Clay. Not "at any time" -- just times of their own choosing.

 

[Cotton]

So Terrorists taking away some of my rights justifies the police taking more of them? DOES NOT COMPUTE

Terrorists suck but lets not pretend like it is an epidemic on US soil. They account for an absolutely tiny amount of the total deaths in America.

You're blaming the wrong people. 3,000 deaths at one shot is a pretty substantial amount. It could happen where you live next, but it's awfully nice to be able to sit back from the bleachers and scream injustice when it wasn't your front porch that was violated.

 

[BipolarFuk]

I'm not arguing due process anymore. Some are saying that we should wait for search warrants before we search for terrorists in people's homes.

No one is calling for warrants.

You wouldn't need one if you didn't go acting like jack booted thugs, pounding on people's doors and making them come out of their own homes with their arms up like they are the fucking criminals.

How about a polite knock, and some common fucking courtesy?