2024 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[Simpleton]

I'd support this for sure.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I have to get this off my chest... Ed Werder is the "Cowboys insider" on the Ticket this morning, and he's harping on things like McCarthy taking the 64 yarder off the board, not "calling the Turpin TD play again after it worked", and other things regarding Mike.

Ed has been here for over 30 years. He was a Jimmy buddy. He knows this is all Jerry better than anyone. But he won't come out and say it, and blames the HC instead. Why? Because he knows if he did that he might get in trouble, maybe even lose sources. Jerry isn't going anywhere, it's still going to be his kingdom, so might as well trash the guy who won't be here and hold back on criticizing the one who will. This kind of thinking with the media who cover this team is a big reason why Jerry doesn't really get the heat he should.

 

[Simpleton]

For the team to be this bad and barely in the top 10 is just so Cowboys.

That's only because we've played one less game than a few teams and the tiebreaker, which if you noticed has shifted quite a bit since last week.

Ours has stayed roughly the same but a number of teams (Giants, Raiders, Titans, Browns) took big jumps.

SOS is completely unpredictable, and ours will probably be relatively high either way at the end of the year, but as long as we finish 5-12 or worse I feel pretty confident that we'll be at least around 6 or 7.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Also, Werder admits that he thought this was a playoff team because he thought the offense would still be really good and the defense would be good enough with Zimmer fixing some things.

He admits that people in the organization on the personnel side were telling him, "Are you serious? Look at all the players we lost. We have two gadget players on offense. We have no idea how the offensive line will be with the rookies." Etc.

So people inside the organization knew. But Jerry always expects everything to work out for the best, despite evidence to the contrary.

 

[boozeman]

I have to get this off my chest... Ed Werder is the "Cowboys insider" on the Ticket this morning, and he's harping on things like McCarthy taking the 64 yarder off the board, not "calling the Turpin TD play again after it worked", and other things regarding Mike.

Ed has been here for over 30 years. He was a Jimmy buddy. He knows this is all Jerry better than anyone. But he won't come out and say it, and blames the HC instead. Why? Because he knows if he did that he might get in trouble, maybe even lose sources. Jerry isn't going anywhere, it's still going to be his kingdom, so might as well trash the guy who won't be here and hold back on criticizing the one who will. This kind of thinking with the media who cover this team is a big reason why Jerry doesn't really get the heat he should.

I get what you are saying but part of Werder's job is to engage and create dialogue.

If all he did was bitch about Jerry Jones, which we know will not step down, sell the team, etc., who would listen?

And as a matter of simple fact, McCarthy deserves every bit of that criticism.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I get what you are saying but part of Werder's job is to engage and create dialogue.

If all he did was bitch about Jerry Jones, which we know will not step down, sell the team, etc., who would listen?

Plenty of people are pissed off about Jerry and sick of him skating more than he should. Just like we are here.

Sounds like you're defending their kind of thinking, which seems odd to me. I don't GAF about what's comfortable for the media, especially if that involves kissing up to the architect of this disaster.

 

[boozeman]

Also, Werder admits that he thought this was a playoff team because he thought the offense would still be really good and the defense would be good enough with Zimmer fixing some things.

He admits that people in the organization on the personnel side were telling him, "Are you serious? Look at all the players we lost. We have two gadget players on offense. We have no idea how the offensive line will be with the rookies." Etc.

So people inside the organization knew. But Jerry always expects everything to work out for the best, despite evidence to the contrary.

I would hope that they knew and weren't just whistling past the graveyard like Jerry and Stephen Jones did.

They did not lose anyone that a concerted smart effort in the draft and especially free agency couldn't have replaced.

Pollard was the biggest loss because of what asinine shit we tried to roll with after he left.

 

[boozeman]

Plenty of people are pissed off about Jerry and sick of him skating more than he should. Just like we are here.

At the end of the day, none of it matters. Nothing changes until he dies. And even then it may not make things make any more sense than they do now.

 

[Simpleton]

I would hope that they knew and weren't just whistling past the graveyard like Jerry and Stephen Jones did.

They did not lose anyone that a concerted smart effort in the draft and especially free agency couldn't have replaced.

Pollard was the biggest loss because of what asinine shit we tried to roll with after he left.

The personnel issues right now come down to ignoring RB, Mazi being a bust and injuries.

Not really a whole lot to it other than that.

 

[Rev]

This. Do this at least.

 

[data]

At the end of the day, none of it matters. Nothing changes until he dies. And even then it may not make things make any more sense than they do now.

At the end of the day, this is as good as it will get going forward.

At least Jerruh roomed with Jimmuh. At least Jerruh was preoccupied once with the Cowboys bleeding money to allow football ppl to make football decisions.

Who’s Stephen gonna hire? He doesn’t know anybody. Nobody likes him. Who’s Spaulding gonna hire? When is Stephen ever going to be distracted enough to turn over personnel control?

 

[Simpleton]

At the end of the day, this is as good as it will get going forward.

At least Jerruh roomed with Jimmuh. At least Jerruh was preoccupied once with the Cowboys bleeding money to allow football ppl to make football decisions.

Who’s Stephen gonna hire? He doesn’t know anybody. Nobody likes him. Who’s Spaulding gonna hire? When is Stephen ever going to be distracted enough to turn over personnel control?

I could see Stephen stepping back and turning most of the football operation over to random football types, as long as they operate within the financial boundaries he sets of course.

I don't think he cares about credit or spotlight like Jerry, and it's possible that at the moment he is kind of just trying to play both sides since Jerry will always stick his nose into shit and maybe this is the only way Stephen thinks he can placate him while running a somewhat normal personnel operation.

Or maybe he's been completely incepted and thinks this is the only way to do it and nothing changes, no way of really knowing, but I think there's a possibility that he shifts things around once Jerry's nonsense isn't on the table anymore, similar to how McClay largely runs the draft.

 

[Texas Ace]

I have to get this off my chest... Ed Werder is the "Cowboys insider" on the Ticket this morning, and he's harping on things like McCarthy taking the 64 yarder off the board, not "calling the Turpin TD play again after it worked", and other things regarding Mike.

Ed has been here for over 30 years. He was a Jimmy buddy. He knows this is all Jerry better than anyone. But he won't come out and say it, and blames the HC instead. Why? Because he knows if he did that he might get in trouble, maybe even lose sources. Jerry isn't going anywhere, it's still going to be his kingdom, so might as well trash the guy who won't be here and hold back on criticizing the one who will. This kind of thinking with the media who cover this team is a big reason why Jerry doesn't really get the heat he should.

Can you blame him though?

Werder has been reduced to being a guy with no real connections now. If he lost access to the Cowboys, he literally wouldn't have anything to report on and his career would be over.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Can you blame him though?

Yes. Don't give me your reasons.

Really though, Ed should about be retirement age. He's done this long enough. I'd say that should make him even more honest, since he doesn't work for ESPN anymore.

 

[Bipo]

Stephen A compared Jerry to Biden today.

 

[bbgun]

Stephen A compared Jerry to Biden today.

But if he hired Deion or Witten, he'd be Trump.

 

[UncleMilti]

Losing is a good thing right now, they'd be idiots to get rid of McCarthy or do whatever else to win a few meaningless games. The best case scenario is what happened last night, the team was generally competitive, but then cratered and lost in the 4th, and probably embarrassed Jerry somewhat.

Only way I keep McCarthy is he agrees to an innovative OC. His offense is pure shit.

 

[bbgun]

Only way I keep McCarthy

nothing should follow that sentence fragment

 

[Rev]

At this point I don't see any way that you keep him. He has lost the room.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Could you imagine the type of work you would accomplish at a job if they told you that you would be fired in 2 months? But go ahead and keep working for the next two months? We will pay you the same regardless?

Of course it's a shit show. What other possible outcome is there?