2024 POTUS Thread...

[mcnuttz]

I figured the Photoshop existed somewhere, and it does.

We're gonna need an expert to help determine if this is, indeed, a photoshop.

Too close to call by my untrained eyes.

 

[Cotton]

My opinion is that the best method to avoid even having to make such a decision to ensure that people have (and utilize) access to contraception.

Are there not condoms in every single pharmacy on the planet?

 

[Genghis Khan]

Are there not condoms in every single pharmacy on the planet?

And, everyone has access to birth control contraception, because everyone can pull out.

 

[Cotton]

And, everyone has access to birth control contraception, because everyone can pull out.

Or keep their damn legs together.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Again, I don’t agree with abortion, I’ll never agree with Government intervention, nor do I agree in controlling someone else’s life. The problem is that there is another life in question, so I don’t have a viable solution. I just don’t want the Government involved in whatever that solution is.

Gosh generally speaking I agree with you. But you have to draw the line somewhere. At some point it's really just murder. Is that the day the egg has insemination? I certainly don't think so. But also don't tell me a 24 week old baby in a tummy should be aborted. A baby has survived at 21 weeks for God's sake. Just because the baby is sitting inside their mom's belly doesn't mean they don't deserve some form of protection. Otherwise you might as well just legalize murder.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

And I know the counter argument is that, no mom will do that! And that those are only cases where the fetus isn't viable. I call complete bullshit. There are crazy women out there. Especially when a women is pregnant. I don't trust them.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Gosh generally speaking I agree with you. But you have to draw the line somewhere. At some point it's really just murder. Is that the day the egg has insemination? I certainly don't think so. But also don't tell me a 24 week old baby in a tummy should be aborted. A baby has survived at 21 weeks for God's sake. Just because the baby is sitting inside their mom's belly doesn't mean they don't deserve some form of protection. Otherwise you might as well just legalize murder.

This is generally how I feel. There's definitely a line where it crosses over into murder and I'm not sure where the line is but it's pretty early.

 

[Genghis Khan]

And, I think leaving the laws surrounding abortion up to each individual state is exactly the right thing to do.

There's no national law regarding murder. Why would we have one for abortion?

It's such a a debated topic it needs to be decided on a state by state basis. What works for people in California or New York should not dictate what works for people in Texas or Alabama.

 

[Cujo]

It all starts with the Department of Education. I'm gonna leave it at that for now.

The dismantling of this agency should be one of the first things Trump does.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

I agree to an extent and I do want to point out that that's not what I'm talking about when I say the left is pro choice. They are fiercely pro abortion.

As far as abortion goes, I've always been pro choice but I'm teetering further and further to pro life.

I don't want to derail this to an abortion debate so I'll stop there.

I appreciate the clarification and totally agree.

 

[Cujo]

Good old Keynesian Economics. The utterly ludicrous idea that as long as the Government keeps spending, then the people will be better off. It’s fucking insane. Set the minimum wage at zero where it belongs, and put the onus on the market to set the pay for the positions people are hiring for. They’ll learn very quickly what someone is willing to accept for a particular job. Stop thinking that raising the floor does anything other than erode the middle class, because it doesn’t.

Couldn't agree more. Almost overnight, things would improve

 

[Plan9Misfit]

Gosh generally speaking I agree with you. But you have to draw the line somewhere. At some point it's really just murder. Is that the day the egg has insemination? I certainly don't think so. But also don't tell me a 24 week old baby in a tummy should be aborted. A baby has survived at 21 weeks for God's sake. Just because the baby is sitting inside their mom's belly doesn't mean they don't deserve some form of protection. Otherwise you might as well just legalize murder.

Hence, why I said it’s above my pay grade. But, considering I don’t trust politicians, I’d sooner drop dead than let them make the determination, either.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

This is generally how I feel. There's definitely a line where it crosses over into murder and I'm not sure where the line is but it's pretty early.

No one knows where that line is. It’s completely subjective. But no one should put their trust in a Government at any level to make that determination. If the Government is too incompetent to buy a hammer efficiently, there’s no way on Earth that those mongrels are qualified to make a decision on something like abortion.

 

[Cotton]

No one knows where that line is. It’s completely subjective. But no one should put their trust in a Government at any level to make that determination. If the Government is too incompetent to buy a hammer efficiently, there’s no way on Earth that those mongrels are qualified to make a decision on something like abortion.

Then who gets to make that determination?

 

[NoDak]

Then who gets to make that determination?

Dr. Fauci, of course.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

Then who gets to make that determination?

Like I said, I don't know what the solution is. I only know what I believe isn't the solution: and that's the Government.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

Dr. Fauci, of course.

That dude shouldn't be allowed to make any decisions.

 

[Cotton]

Like I said, I don't know what the solution is. I only know what I believe isn't the solution: and that's the Government.

Dude, I am one of the most small government people you will meet. But to leave people to make those decisions independently is a mistake. There would be women getting abortions up until their due date. To me, that is fucking unacceptable.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Dude, I am one of the most small government people you will meet. But to leave people to make those decisions independently is a mistake. There would be women getting abortions up until their due date. To me, that is fucking unacceptable.

I agree. I don't trust the government to do anything competently, but this certainly seems within government purview, much like murder is. Especially since killing the exact same entity once the birth happens is literally murder.

 

[boozeman]

Oof.