At least 50 dead, more than 400 injured after shooting on Las Vegas Strip

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What's so sad is that this is true for many of us now.

I was in Austin about a month ago. I was in downtown Austin on a Saturday night walking around downtown with my family and every time a car would be coming towards us, I would always direct us as far away from the street so that we'd be as far into the sidewalk as possible for that very reason.

I didn't even realize I was doing that until my wife pointed it out. Like you, I've never been through anything like that and yet subconsciously, there I was trying to protect my family from some nut job driving onto the sidewalk.

And when I'm at those very same places you mentioned, I'm always on the lookout for anything that seems out of place.

It's like you said, it's like we have a mild case of PTSD. So can you imagine what people think and feel when they go out that actually have survived one of these incidents?

It's sad to see what the world has come to.
It is sad indeed. I have lived in a much better world.
 

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Read the article and while it is an interesting read there would first need to be an indication the he was being treated medically for a condition that prescribed Cymbalta or a similiar drug. I haven’t seen that indicated anywhere yet.
Diazepam (Valium) mentioned here:

Drug given to Paddock calms some, provokes others, experts say – Las Vegas Review-Journal

The anti-anxiety drug prescribed to Stephen Paddock less than four months before his horrific onslaught in Las Vegas is often consumed by marksmen to calm their nerves and steady their aim.

But that same drug — diazepam — also was prescribed for John Hinckley Jr. before his attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan in 1981. Washington, D.C., attorney Paul Kamenar said Wednesday that he believes diazepam aggravated Hinckley’s mental illness and “actually contributed to his dangerous propensity.”

The Jekyll-and-Hyde reactions to the drug, more commonly known under the trade name Valium, are well understood, according to both Dr. Denis Patterson, a board-certified pain medicine specialist based in Reno, and Dr. Mel Pohl, chief medical officer at the Las Vegas Recovery Center.
So far nothing about Cymbalta.
 

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I’m so angry right now. I saw for the first time the photos of the victims of the mad man who went on a killing spree in Las Vegas. He got off so easy for what he did to so many lives.
 

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I’m so angry right now. I saw for the first time the photos of the victims of the mad man who went on a killing spree in Las Vegas. He got off so easy for what he did to so many lives.
He sure fucking did. Hopefully he's burning in hell now.
 

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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting

Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:

1. How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2. How did he fire off that many rounds without training?

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4. Why did he have so many weapons?

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point."

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6. How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.)

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8. What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?

A: It was an echo.

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?

A: He was rich. As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors. Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A: He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, strobe lights, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)...

Response questions: Where in these locations was glass broken? Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A. Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres? What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture. Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs. Seriously, just stop.
 

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Huh. Well I'll be damned. Bipo with a reasonable post that makes complete sense.

There's something you don't see ever[STRIKE]yday.[/STRIKE]
 

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Huh. Well I'll be damned. Bipo with a reasonable post that makes complete sense.

There's something you don't see ever[STRIKE]yday.[/STRIKE]
and doesnt contain a picture.
 

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if only he'd give attribution for the articles he posts
 

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I've read some of the conspiracy theories on the deal. I just can't get into it at this point. Something like that takes a MAJOR conspiracy. What would the motive for a conspiracy but? I just don't see it.
 

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if only he'd give attribution for the articles he posts
Who gives a fuck?

The point of posting an article without saying who wrote it or whether it comes from CNN or FOX or where ever, is so one can read it and form your OWN opinion before that opinion is formed for you based on author or news site.
 

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Who gives a fuck?

The point of posting an article without saying who wrote it or whether it comes from CNN or FOX or where ever, is so one can read it and form your OWN opinion before that opinion is formed for you based on author or news site.
I demand that you write all of your posts in MLM format going forward.
 

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Who gives a fuck?

The point of posting an article without saying who wrote it or whether it comes from CNN or FOX or where ever, is so one can read it and form your OWN opinion before that opinion is formed for you based on author or news site.
Yeah. Like you would post anything from Fox? :lol
 

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Wow, if true, that is huge.
 
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