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  • #16
    Originally posted by townsend View Post
    Nation of Islam is actually a black Islamic movement, Famously led by Malcolm X, ISIS or ISIL also refer to themselves as the Islamic state.
    They're also referred to as Daesh. Which means something like zealot/extremist, apparently they hate it, which is a good reason to adopt the term.
    That's correct. ISIS is Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. That is what confused me about the news report because the way it was reported when I heard it said the Islamic State which seemed to imply the domestic group.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
      That's correct. ISIS is Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. That is what confused me about the news report because the way it was reported when I heard it said the Islamic State which seemed to imply the domestic group.
      I think the report actually said Islamic Nation.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
        I think the report actually said Islamic Nation.
        Could have been a mistake during a rush. I suspect news organizations have been scrambling today.

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        • #19
          Islam is by nature homophobic, as are evangelical Christians. I fail to understand why people are trying to define this attack.

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          • #20
            Apparently the shooter's father is a television personality for an Afghan public access channel out of California. He has praised the Taliban and proclaimed himself the rightful President of Afghanistan.

            This begs the question, why is there a pro-Taliban public access channel allowed to operate out of California?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kbrown View Post
              Apparently the shooter's father is a television personality for an Afghan public access channel out of California. He has praised the Taliban and proclaimed himself the rightful President of Afghanistan.

              This begs the question, why is there a pro-Taliban public access channel allowed to operate out of California?
              Free speech. Same reason white supremacist message boards and Ku Klux Klan marches are allowed to proceed uninhibited.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kbrown View Post
                Apparently the shooter's father is a television personality for an Afghan public access channel out of California. He has praised the Taliban and proclaimed himself the rightful President of Afghanistan.

                This begs the question, why is there a pro-Taliban public access channel allowed to operate out of California?
                Free country, dood.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by townsend View Post
                  Free speech. Same reason white supremacist message boards and Ku Klux Klan marches are allowed to proceed uninhibited.
                  I guess I am just surprised that in this era of what LT says are temporary emergency measures used to monitor everyone, a pro-enemy tv channel hasn't had everyone involved with it ripped apart by investigations.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by boozeman View Post
                    Islam is by nature homophobic, as are evangelical Christians. I fail to understand why people are trying to define this attack.
                    Because evangelicals aren't blowing up and mowing down their prohibitions.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
                      Because evangelicals aren't blowing up and mowing down their prohibitions.
                      Radical evangelics have not resorted to violence?

                      Well how about that.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
                        Because evangelicals aren't blowing up and mowing down their prohibitions.
                        I think Islam is still a young man's religion. The rapidly aging Christian population is not mostly of the age to go spree shooting. Although there seems to be a heavy Christian influence in the violent aspects of the pro life movement.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by boozeman View Post
                          Radical evangelics have not resorted to violence?

                          Well how about that.
                          Maybe you can find something but it's pretty rare. Only thing that comes to mind for me is some incidents with abortion clinics a few years back. I don't think Evangelicals have a word for jihad.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
                            Maybe you can find something but it's pretty rare. Only thing that comes to mind for me is some incidents with abortion clinics a few years back. I don't think Evangelicals have a word for jihad.
                            Crusade. Don't forget that the Klan flew the Christian flag.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by townsend View Post
                              Crusade. Don't forget that the Klan flew the Christian flag.
                              Get real. Hardly classified as Evangelicals. Does anyone really want to compare Evangelicals with extremest Muslim terrorist? Other than just chain yanking of course.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
                                Get real. Hardly classified as Evangelicals. Does anyone really want to compare Evangelicals with extremest Muslim terrorist? Other than just chain yanking of course.
                                I would say that you could describe Klansmen as extremist Christians. Who were quite capable of terrorism. I wouldnt equate mainstream Christianity with the KKK, any more than I'd equate Islam with ISIS.

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