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  • #16
    Originally posted by Texas Ace View Post
    There is ZERO chance that Mayweather knocks him out or even beats him up, for that matter.


    Zero chance, huh?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by E_D_Guapo View Post
      I'll quit harping on this point I promise but it is not normal for Mayweather to come out and just knock out top pro boxers in his weight class. I'm sure he'll be his usual patient self because the last thing he wants to do is by chance run into a McGregor left hand and shockingly lose, but I have a feeling in this fight he will have much earlier opportunities than usual to put his opponent away.
      Mayweather beats the best of the best boxers with his strategy. I think it would be extremely foolish for him to deviate from what he does best. And frankly what he does best is dance around and lands a lot of punches that don't do a lot of damage. I think he will do exactly that against McGregor. Which will probably make for an extremely boring and long fight.

      And if I'm McGregor I'd go in there knowing you have to knock him out. You're not going to win standing up and boxing round for round. So you have to go in with the mentality that you're going to take some hits but you need to swing as hard as you can and hope to land a big punch that does a lot of damage.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
        Mayweather beats the best of the best boxers with his strategy. I think it would be extremely foolish for him to deviate from what he does best. And frankly what he does best is dance around and lands a lot of punches that don't do a lot of damage. I think he will do exactly that against McGregor. Which will probably make for an extremely boring and long fight.

        And if I'm McGregor I'd go in there knowing you have to knock him out. You're not going to win standing up and boxing round for round. So you have to go in with the mentality that you're going to take some hits but you need to swing as hard as you can and hope to land a big punch that does a lot of damage.
        I hear you. I am simply stating that he probably will not have to deviate from his strategy to knock McGregor out. The opportunity may very well present itself in the natural course of the fight because McGregor is not remotely in the same class of boxer as the guys Mayweather has fought before.

        I mean, it could play out exactly like you and Ace are suggesting...a lopsided decision where Mayweather wins every round. But you guys are basing that on Mayweather's history against pro boxers. Is McGregor even a better boxer than the guys Mayweather uses as sparring partners? He might be, he might not be.

        My outlook is that you can't predict the outcome based on Mayweather's history of fights against a number of legit opponents because I do not believe McGregor falls into that category. Apples to oranges in a way. Throw out the "well he doesn't knock most guys out because of his style" because McGregor in his lack of boxing experience/efforts to knock Mayweather out may very well leave himself open to getting hit with a flurry of punches that puts him on the mat.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by E_D_Guapo View Post


          Zero chance, huh?
          It's just not his style, especially in the latter part of his career.

          Even when he has someone completely outclassed, he just doesn't go in for the kill or throw a lot of punches. No matter who he fights, he sticks to his gameplan of throw one singular straight right hand when he sees an opening or as a counter punch, then continue to move around the ring.

          Go back and look at his last 8 fights or so and look at the post-fight pics of his opponent. See if you can find one that would indicate that they had a rough night.

          Mayweather wins by giving the opponent nothing to hit and by beating them to the punch with excellent speed and accuracy. This then leads to his opponent getting immensely frustrated and the amount of punches they throw drastically decreases as the fight goes on.

          But beat people up? Nah. Even Andre Berto who is a total bum now took him 12 rounds.

          Floyd will win all 12 rounds, but he's not going to knock McGregor out.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Texas Ace View Post
            It's just not his style, especially in the latter part of his career.

            Even when he has someone completely outclassed, he just doesn't go in for the kill or throw a lot of punches. No matter who he fights, he sticks to his gameplan of throw one singular straight right hand when he sees an opening or as a counter punch, then continue to move around the ring.

            Go back and look at his last 8 fights or so and look at the post-fight pics of his opponent. See if you can find one that would indicate that they had a rough night.

            Mayweather wins by giving the opponent nothing to hit and by beating them to the punch with excellent speed and accuracy. This then leads to his opponent getting immensely frustrated and the amount of punches they throw drastically decreases as the fight goes on.

            But beat people up? Nah. Even Andre Berto who is a total bum now took him 12 rounds.

            Floyd will win all 12 rounds, but he's not going to knock McGregor out.
            See my above reply to CRock. That is how I see it. You may end up being right about the result but IMO it is a flawed mindset to compare this fight to any other professional fight he has ever had.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by E_D_Guapo View Post

              I mean, it could play out exactly like you and Ace are suggesting...a lopsided decision where Mayweather wins every round. But you guys are basing that on Mayweather's history against pro boxers. Is McGregor even a better boxer than the guys Mayweather uses as sparring partners? He might be, he might not be.
              And I'm not saying he won't knock McGregor out either. I just don't think it's going to be quick. The other thing people don't think about is endurance. Mayweather going 12 rounds is no big deal. He has the stamina built up to still be going strong in those later rounds. McGregor isn't use to going that long as an MMA fighter. I think if the fight goes very long McGregor is going to be dead on his feet and may get knocked out from an exhausted stand point. McGregor isn't going to have any feet left after the first 5 rounds or so.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by E_D_Guapo View Post
                See my above reply to CRock. That is how I see it. You may end up being right about the result but IMO it is a flawed mindset to compare this fight to any other professional fight he has ever had.
                McGregor is basically an amateur as a boxer, but he's not an amateur as a fighter.

                In order for him to even stand a chance of getting knocked out by a guy who doesn't throw many power punches and hasn't knocked someone out in years, he would have to be completely careless and start flailing around in the ring.

                While I don't think he'll pose much of a threat to Floyd, I also don't expect him to look like a chicken with his head cut off either. He'll be aggressive, but he'll be smart too.

                Remember, he's been hit by guys with more power wearing much smaller gloves than Floyd too. These gloves are gonna be like pillows to McGregor, so it's going to take a wide open, bone crunching punch in the right spot to knock him out, and I just don't think that's gonna happen given who Floyd is.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
                  And I'm not saying he won't knock McGregor out either. I just don't think it's going to be quick. The other thing people don't think about is endurance. Mayweather going 12 rounds is no big deal. He has the stamina built up to still be going strong in those later rounds. McGregor isn't use to going that long as an MMA fighter. I think if the fight goes very long McGregor is going to be dead on his feet and may get knocked out from an exhausted stand point. McGregor isn't going to have any feet left after the first 5 rounds or so.
                  Stamina-wise, I think he'll be ok for about 8 rounds.

                  Remember, he exerts a lot more energy in MMA than in boxing. The rounds in MMA last 5 minutes each and he's had to go the distance in some of his toughest and most physical fights....most recently, the Diaz rematch.

                  That went 20 min long which equates to about 6 or 7 rounds in boxing. But in MMA there is a lot of wrestling and having another man use all of his weight against you, etc. That won't be the case in boxing.

                  So while I do expect him to start feeling it late, I don't think stamina will be a big deal for most of the fight. My guess is he'll be ok for about 8 or 9 rounds.
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                  • #24
                    This would all be way more interesting in my opinion if they were both fighting MMA. It's a pretty common debate to have about how a boxer would hold up in an MMA match since boxing is a part of MMA. An excellent boxer has a better chance to transition to MMA because they at least have a mastery of one aspect of MMA. Going the other direction isn't true. A MMA fighter doesn't necessarily have a mastery of boxing. So when you put them in a boxing ring you're telling a MMA fighter that they can't do some of the things that they are a master of and can only use a part of their skillset.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Texas Ace View Post
                      McGregor is basically an amateur as a boxer, but he's not an amateur as a fighter.

                      In order for him to even stand a chance of getting knocked out by a guy who doesn't throw many power punches and hasn't knocked someone out in years, he would have to be completely careless and start flailing around in the ring.

                      While I don't think he'll pose much of a threat to Floyd, I also don't expect him to look like a chicken with his head cut off either. He'll be aggressive, but he'll be smart too.

                      Remember, he's been hit by guys with more power wearing much smaller gloves than Floyd too. These gloves are gonna be like pillows to McGregor, so it's going to take a wide open, bone crunching punch in the right spot to knock him out, and I just don't think that's gonna happen given who Floyd is.
                      I guess, but it doesn't have to be one wide open, bone crunching punch. If he hits him with a combination and rattles him he might just decide he can finish him off, especially the deeper into the fight it gets.

                      The stamina point is a very valid one. I don't anticipate an early knockout by any means but somewhere in the middle of that fight it is going to play a role for McGregor. That is where he will be most in danger of getting knocked out, IMO.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by E_D_Guapo View Post
                        I guess, but it doesn't have to be one wide open, bone crunching punch. If he hits him with a combination and rattles him he might just decide he can finish him off, especially the deeper into the fight it gets.
                        Again, this isn't Floyd's style.

                        Floyd has one of the lowest punch outputs ever for a unified champion, and that low punch count becomes even lower when it comes to power punches.

                        Combinations are not his thing. He's a one punch guy 80% of the time, and if you do get any sort of combination, it's a left jab followed by a straight right hand. As for hooks? Almost non-existent.

                        As I've said many times already, the guy is mostly a singular straight right hand and move type of fighter or a straight right hand, pause, followed by another straight right hand.

                        I know the opponent may not be no match for him, but you're asking a guy to do uncharacteristic things that he never does. Could it happen? I guess....if he thought McGregor posed no threat, but the guy just doesn't deviate from what he believes in even when faced with a much lesser opponent.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Texas Ace View Post
                          Combinations are not his thing. He's a one punch guy 80% of the time, and if you do get any sort of combination, it's a left jab followed by a straight right hand. As for hooks? Almost non-existent.

                          As I've said many times already, the guy is mostly a singular straight right hand and move type of fighter or a straight right hand, pause, followed by another straight right hand.
                          [MENTION=38]E_D_Guapo[/MENTION]

                          Look at this vid (but keep the volume down due to the annoying music accompanying it) and you'll see that this speaks perfectly to the points I made above.

                          I want you to tell me how many times you see him throw anything other than exactly what I described above.


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by E_D_Guapo View Post
                            I hear you. I am simply stating that he probably will not have to deviate from his strategy to knock McGregor out. The opportunity may very well present itself in the natural course of the fight because McGregor is not remotely in the same class of boxer as the guys Mayweather has fought before.

                            I mean, it could play out exactly like you and Ace are suggesting...a lopsided decision where Mayweather wins every round. But you guys are basing that on Mayweather's history against pro boxers. Is McGregor even a better boxer than the guys Mayweather uses as sparring partners? He might be, he might not be.

                            My outlook is that you can't predict the outcome based on Mayweather's history of fights against a number of legit opponents because I do not believe McGregor falls into that category. Apples to oranges in a way. Throw out the "well he doesn't knock most guys out because of his style" because McGregor in his lack of boxing experience/efforts to knock Mayweather out may very well leave himself open to getting hit with a flurry of punches that puts him on the mat.
                            Agreed. He won't have to dance around. He most likely will have glaring holes in McGregor's defense to exploit, and I think he will see them early and exploit, he will.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Texas Ace View Post
                              Again, this isn't Floyd's style.

                              Floyd has one of the lowest punch outputs ever for a unified champion, and that low punch count becomes even lower when it comes to power punches.

                              Combinations are not his thing. He's a one punch guy 80% of the time, and if you do get any sort of combination, it's a left jab followed by a straight right hand. As for hooks? Almost non-existent.

                              As I've said many times already, the guy is mostly a singular straight right hand and move type of fighter or a straight right hand, pause, followed by another straight right hand.

                              I know the opponent may not be no match for him, but you're asking a guy to do uncharacteristic things that he never does. Could it happen? I guess....if he thought McGregor posed no threat, but the guy just doesn't deviate from what he believes in even when faced with a much lesser opponent.
                              That's all well and good but let's not act like he has never knocked anyone out. A little over half his wins are by KO/TKO. I understand most of those were earlier in his career, but it is not as though he is incapable of doing that now. Maybe he'll do the same thing he has done in most of his fights of the last decade and just win by UD, but I think given the considerable gap in skill level a KO/TKO is very much in play.

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                              • #30
                                What the hell happened to all the posts between Iamtdg and I?

                                Did you delete them?
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