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  • #16
    Originally posted by Genghis Khan View Post
    Kavon Frazier, Dak Prescott, Xavier Woods, Anthony Brown, Charles Tapper, Ryan Switzer.

    All day 3 picks.
    Sure and there is a long list of guys who were totally worthless. We have what 7 picks on day 2? I doubt all 10 draft picks we have would make the roster. So it's ok to trade a couple of those later picks away. This is a pretty low cost move to get a second first rounder.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
      Sure and there is a long list of guys who were totally worthless. We have what 7 picks on day 2? I doubt all 10 draft picks we have would make the roster. So it's ok to trade a couple of those later picks away. This is a pretty low cost move to get a second first rounder.
      Sure but by that logic there's also a pretty lengthy list of 1st and 2nd rounders who were totally worthless.

      That's why it's usually a better strategy to attack the draft with volume. Especially since we do have quite a bit of holes to fill.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Genghis Khan View Post
        Sure but by that logic there's also a pretty lengthy list of 1st and 2nd rounders who were totally worthless.

        That's why it's usually a better strategy to attack the draft with volume. Especially since we do have quite a bit of holes to fill.
        Yeah I love volume. Hell you've probably read about me bitching that no way in hell should we be trading up in the first round at the cost of a third round pick or more. Especially because I feel like there is always good talent in the fourth and fifth round (Not that Dallas always picks those guys) but there are always guys I really want still around.

        I mean I'd rather just trade down from 19 and stockpile additional picks. Give me more picks in the first two days and I'd be thrilled. But I can certainly see the benefits of getting two first round picks.

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        • #19
          I guess to make it concrete, which draft do you like better:
          LB LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH
          WR ANTHONY MILLER
          S TRAVARIOUS MOORE
          DT BREELAND SPEAKS
          G COLE MADISON
          RB ITO SMITH
          T DESMOND HARRISON
          TE DURHAM SMYTHE
          LB SKAI MOORE
          DE JUSTIN LAWLER

          or

          LB LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH
          WR DJ MOORE
          S TRAVARIOUS MOORE
          RB ITO SMITH
          T DESMOND HARRISON
          TE DURHAM SMYTHE
          LB SKAI MOORE
          DE JUSTIN LAWLER

          Obviously this is a lot of guessing so perhaps it's Evans and Sutton or heck Moore and Hernandez or so on but we should get two starters with those first two picks no question.
          I was on the draft LVE train. I was for trading for Amari before it happened.
          'nuff said

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          • #20
            Originally posted by lostxn View Post
            I guess to make it concrete, which draft do you like better:
            LB LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH
            WR ANTHONY MILLER
            S TRAVARIOUS MOORE
            DT BREELAND SPEAKS
            G COLE MADISON
            RB ITO SMITH
            T DESMOND HARRISON
            TE DURHAM SMYTHE
            LB SKAI MOORE
            DE JUSTIN LAWLER

            or

            LB LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH
            WR DJ MOORE
            S TRAVARIOUS MOORE
            RB ITO SMITH
            T DESMOND HARRISON
            TE DURHAM SMYTHE
            LB SKAI MOORE
            DE JUSTIN LAWLER

            Obviously this is a lot of guessing so perhaps it's Evans and Sutton or heck Moore and Hernandez or so on but we should get two starters with those first two picks no question.
            Yeah I like the second one more. But I really like Moore and I'm not that high on Miller. I'm not a big Speaks guys either.

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            • #21
              Not a fan of Breeland Speaks, but say that pick is Denarius Senat instead. Senat and Cole Madison might be two future starters on our lines. Is it worth giving them up to have Moore instead of Miller? I don't know.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mschmidt64 View Post
                Not a fan of Breeland Speaks, but say that pick is Denarius Senat instead. Senat and Cole Madison might be two future starters on our lines. Is it worth giving them up to have Moore instead of Miller? I don't know.
                I think he was basing this off the mock draft they just did on the Cowboys NFL draft show on the dallascowboys.com website. Senat was long gone by then.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Genghis Khan View Post
                  We are giving up 4 picks and only adding two. I have zero interest in that.

                  I get that we're only giving up a 4th and essentially a sixth, but they're still too valuable to me.

                  I mean, our starting QB was essentially a fifth and like half our secondary we're 6th rounders so I wouldn't look at them as throwaways.
                  If you'd rather not give up a mid-4th and late-5th to move up from 50 to 31 that's fine, I just disagree.

                  I'd much rather get a guy like Sutton, Evans, Payne or Wynn at 31 than James Washington, Chark or Nathan Shepherd at 50, and for all the rotational players we've found in the 5th or 6th there are 3-5 times as many guys who washed out.

                  Of course the more picks you have the greater the chance that you hit on one of them but there's also the possibility that the front office better parses out who they like rather than just throwing bones like POS Joey Ivie and Jordan Carrell at Marinelli.

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                  • #24
                    Man I posted this same thread on the zone. Amazing how little analysis these folks do. Just knee-jerk "yes" "no" answers with no rationale. This is why I have 113 messages there and 5k+ here.
                    I was on the draft LVE train. I was for trading for Amari before it happened.
                    'nuff said

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                    • #25
                      I'd do the trade simply because I think there's a better chance of this group hitting at 23 and 31 than the at 50, and the 4 and 5 picks. I know they have been better of late, but they aren't making 10 picks anyway and 2 in the 1st would be greatness.

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                      • #26
                        Well, we ended up with two of the guys listed in the trade scenario in LVE and Connor Williams, while keeping the extra two picks which we would have lost, which turned into Dorance Armstrong and Mike White.


                        Looks like Jerry knows more about football than you guys after all.


                        All kidding aside, if that trade would have went down the only other two guys on that list available were DJ Moore and Hernandez. So it begs the question... Would you be more happy with with those two or LVE, Williams, Armstrong, and White? (yes, I know that only one different pick anywhere in the process would have changed the entire draft.)

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