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Do not do this to me.
Do not do this to me.
I agree with Rod Marinelli. Too bad he'll be drafted before us.
Interesting.
That would be my guess as well. That or it's the Cowboys trying to send out a smoke screen so that teams don't just automatically write Dallas off for every NT in the first round.Interesting.
I wonder if this is truly just that Vea is unique or if there has been a shift in philosophy, I'm guessing a shift in philosophy and probably due to Richard's presence.
If Vea is a 3-down player why wasn't Eddie Goldman a few years ago? Timmy Jernigan?
Supposedly we weren't interested in them even though Jernigan in particular was a much better pass-rusher than Vea.
Seattle always had a nice fat-ass sitting in there as a 1-T so I'm guessing this is Richard's influence and not just purely Vea's unique ability.
Vea seems like a pretty unusual guy to me. Body of a plugger with the athleticism of a penetrating DT. If he can't fit your scheme, your scheme is shit.Interesting.
I wonder if this is truly just that Vea is unique or if there has been a shift in philosophy, I'm guessing a shift in philosophy and probably due to Richard's presence.
If Vea is a 3-down player why wasn't Eddie Goldman a few years ago? Timmy Jernigan?
Supposedly we weren't interested in them even though Jernigan in particular was a much better pass-rusher than Vea.
Seattle always had a nice fat-ass sitting in there as a 1-T so I'm guessing this is Richard's influence and not just purely Vea's unique ability.
I tweeted basically the same to Hill alreadyDo not do this to me.
We don't seem to be too into smokescreens with our 30 visits so I doubt it's that.That would be my guess as well. That or it's the Cowboys trying to send out a smoke screen so that teams don't just automatically write Dallas off for every NT in the first round.
My honest opinion is that Richard has probably preached the ability of using a guy like Vea to rush the passer from the 1 technique spot.
Yeah and I even went back and checked out of curiosity to see if we brought Floyd in for a predraft visit. We did not. I agree, we don't really seem to use the predraft visits to fool anyone. Heck if we were trying to fool people why not bring in some first round corners as well. But we haven't bothered to do any of that. The fact that the two NT's sort of got added to the list at the same time and a little later tells me that maybe Richard convinced someone we should bring them in.We don't seem to be too into smokescreens with our 30 visits so I doubt it's that.
The fact that we're bringing in Payne also makes me almost certain that it's Richard's influence. You want to tell me Vea is a special prospect who breaks the mold?
I'm not really buying it but I don't think it's impossible that that's their line of thinking.
But there is no way on God's green Earth that they would have been interested in both him and Payne in years past, I definitely think it's Richard's influence and/or a slight shift in philosophy.
There is a 0.0% chance that a guy like Payne is more explosive/athletic than a guy like Shariff Floyd who Marinelli wanted absolutely no part of.
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You sure do love your defense.1) Vita Vea
2) Ronnie Harrison
3) Darius Leonard
= Profit?
I love different things different years, because it's all based on opportunity; I think you personally have argued against me when I advocated drafting Julio Jones when we already had Dez Bryant.You sure do love your defense.
But I couldn't complain about that draft at all. Love all the players in those rounds.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. But our offense is only one year removed from being a special unit. So I'm not ready to just totally abandon them in an attempt to build the defense to something special. We have the elite running game and 3 all pro offensive lineman. I think it's just as easy for us to get back to a special offense like we had 2 years ago. And the defense has enough young pieces that they could get pretty good with just an addition or two. But if the draft falls like you suggested with your picks I'd have no problem with it. I also think this defense could be built to an excellent unit. Especially when you're talking about a NT because I think this D-line is close to being special. Lawrence and Irving proved last year they could be a dynamic duo. Throw in an elite 1 technique and Taco hopefully becoming a really good 6-8 sack guy next year and that D-line has the makings of special. You'd have 2 legit double digit sacks guys with a couple more disruptive starters in Taco and a 1 technique. Best part is you'd have some really good run defenders with length as well.I love different things different years, because it's all based on opportunity; I think you personally have argued against me when I advocated drafting Julio Jones when we already had Dez Bryant.
My philosophy is strong lines and strong QB, and the rest filters down from there, but my second line of thinking after that would be, build dominant position groups or sides of the ball that you can lean on to win matchups.
I.e., our WR corps right now is pretty average or even below average. But Calvin Ridley is not Randy Moss; he's not gonna turn our WR corps from average to great like a Julio Jones prospect would. While adding Ridley to our WR corps definitely helps Prescott long term and definitely helps our WR corp's quality long term (and WR will need to be addressed sooner than later with serious draft assets), you aren't winning the NFC next year on the back of drafting Ridley, or even by drafting Ridley and Moore in rounds 1-2.
But if you add three first round picks to your OL, then your OL is a mauling unit that will win ball games. Much better than if you had one first round OL and two average free agent signings, and then a first round pick at WR and a first round pick at corner or something, and all position groups are just ok.
It's why I wanted Reggie Nelson and Brandon Meriweather one year. It's why I wanted to add Julio Jones TO Dez Bryant. It's why I have been ecstatic about the OL getting three first round picks.
Obviously there can be a point of diminishing returns, but usually two or three players to a unit does not reach that saturation point. But adding a fifth first round talent to our OL (along with Smith, Frederick, Martin and Collins) might not have the same return. Our OL is already basically the best in football and wins matchups routinely (or did when Chaz Green wasn't getting abused, but that's a depth problem not a starter problem).
Yep, reminds me a bit of Tyrone Crawford coming out of college. 285 pound DE who is pretty athletic for that size and who was productive playing end in college with 7 sacks this past year. I don't think he is as good of a prospect as Crawford was so you're probably right on with a fourth or fifth round grade. I think he is a 3 technique that you kick out to end in third and short situations.Interesting, Speaks seems like a pure 3-T to me, more like an early Day 3 type.