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  • #76
    Originally posted by Iamtdg View Post
    Yeah, I would be happy with that draft. No homerun splashes, but really solid throughout.
    Pretty much, it addresses basically all of our needs except TE and does so with really solid players that I think have extremely low bust potential. We would get significant use of all the guys I mentioned.

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    • #77
      Dan Kadar runs Mocking The Draft and he posted this on Twitter from some Bucs fan on Reddit.



      Holy shit, the dude apparently took weeks to write it and was peeing in a bottle the entire time.

      Pretty sad he ruined the effect by having Dallas take Alabama RB Damien Harris, who is returning to school.

      Anyways, here is his offseason and draft.

      Apparently he is predicting Dallas cuts Bryant (who ends up with Indy, along with Hitchens). He also sees the Raiders cutting Crabtree, who Dallas signs.


      FA:
      Danny Woodhead, RB
      Michael Crabtree, WR
      Jonathan Cooper, OG
      DeMarcus Lawrence, DE

      Draft:
      (1,24) Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
      (2,50) Martinas Rankin, OG/OT, Mississippi State
      (3,78) Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina
      (3,88) Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia
      (4,114) Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama

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      • #78
        Originally posted by boozeman View Post

        Draft:
        (1,24) Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
        (2,50) Martinas Rankin, OG/OT, Mississippi State
        (3,78) Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina
        (3,88) Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia
        (4,114) Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama
        SEC powered. Larry Lacewell would be proud.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by boozeman View Post
          Dan Kadar runs Mocking The Draft and he posted this on Twitter from some Bucs fan on Reddit.



          Holy shit, the dude apparently took weeks to write it and was peeing in a bottle the entire time.

          Pretty sad he ruined the effect by having Dallas take Alabama RB Damien Harris, who is returning to school.

          Anyways, here is his offseason and draft.

          Apparently he is predicting Dallas cuts Bryant (who ends up with Indy, along with Hitchens). He also sees the Raiders cutting Crabtree, who Dallas signs.


          FA:
          Danny Woodhead, RB
          Michael Crabtree, WR
          Jonathan Cooper, OG
          DeMarcus Lawrence, DE

          Draft:
          (1,24) Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
          (2,50) Martinas Rankin, OG/OT, Mississippi State
          (3,78) Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina
          (3,88) Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia
          (4,114) Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama
          I guess if you stay up non stop writing a 44 page diatribe like this you're bound to make at least one mistake. His free agency for us is silly but the draft at least makes sense. Ridley, Rankin and Hurst while SEC heavy are all at least solid picks.

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          • #80
            Cavanaugh: Mock Draft 1.0
            Jeff Cavanaugh 21 hours ago

            In Cavanaugh draft 1.0 I present to you my first shot at what the first round could look like. Dig in.

            1. Cleveland Browns – Sam Darnold, QB, USC

            By the time I finish evaluating QBs I might slide Baker Mayfield into this spot, but this is the NFL where physical gifts get you drafted higher. Cleveland has passed on enough potential franchise players in recent years and they can't do it again. Now Sam, please stop throwing interceptions.

            2. New York Giants – Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA

            The Giants are in an interesting spot because Eli Manning is nearing the end of his career and it's tempting to pick someone to help him win. However, the Giants aren't planning to return to this range of the draft anytime soon and can't pass on the potential of their next franchise QB.

            3. Indianapolis Colts – Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State

            This isn't a deep pass-rushing class. Chubb is the one guy in this draft who's able to contribute right away against the run and as a pass rusher at a high level.

            4. Cleveland Browns – Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama

            I call Fitzpatrick a DB because on tape he mostly plays the slot for Alabama, but he has the athletic traits and length to be an outside corner if a team wants to put him there. Cleveland should try that. I would pass on Saquon Barkley here because the RB class is incredibly deep and spending a top five pick isn't necessary.

            5. Denver Broncos – Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma

            I don't doubt there's an NFL team that might take Josh Allen before Baker Mayfield but it'd be a strange decision from John Elway. He's already tried Brock Osweiler and Paxton Lynch. Enough of the prototype measurables; pick the best football player.

            6. New York Jets – Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame

            On a team that needs plenty of help we're going to take the best player in the draft and move along. The QB spot isn't filled but I didn't want to drop Josh Allen on them. They have enough developmental guys that won't make it (EDITOR'S NOTE: In case you hadn't noticed, Jeff is a big fan of Josh Allen and has unassailable faith in his future).

            7. Tampa Bay Bucs – Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State.

            Barkley is a special athletic talent with special skills. He's' incredibly dangerous not just as a runner but as a pass catcher and blocker.

            8. Chicago Bears – Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama

            Mitchell Trubisky needs someone to throw to. Ridley's explosiveness as a route runner gives him a receiver who can create separation and make throws easy for him.

            9. San Francisco 49ers (I flipped a coin just as they will before the draft for picks 9/10) – Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State

            He's a little bit undersized but Ward doesn't allow receivers to separate and is super-competitive at the catch point. He makes a ton of plays on the ball.

            10. Oakland Raiders – Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia

            Another undersized badass finds a home. Smith's play speed and ability to play sideline-to-sideline are outstanding. He's as fluid as a defensive back and hits like a truck.

            11. Miami Dolphins – Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech

            Edmunds is a full sized, athletic three-down linebacker that's also incredibly young. He'll continue to improve taking advantage of the prototypical linebacker build that he has.

            12. Cincinnati Bengals – Connor Williams, OT, Texas

            They're hoping to get the 2016 version of Connor Williams that looked like a top ten pick. They're praying they don't get the 2017 version who failed to play like a first round player even before his injury.

            13. Washington Redskins – Vita Vea, DT, Washington

            I can't resist a pick that puts Vita Vea and Jonathan Allen next to each other on the field. Offensive lines everywhere are going to wake up sore.

            14. Green Bay Packers – Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida

            The Packers still need help at corner and Hughes is a stout, press-happy man-coverage player. Physical, fast and fearless.

            15. Arizona Cardinals – Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming

            The whole world says Allen is going in the first round so I have to put him somewhere. I'd be terrified to make this pick.

            16. Baltimore Ravens – Ronald Jones, RB, USC

            Jones has been underrated so far in the draft process. He's an excellent runner with a great feel for the position who can hit home runs.

            17. Los Angeles Chargers – Derwin James, DB, Florida State

            James is a hybrid player who can play both safety spots and is an excellent blitzer. He's still a little bit raw but has the ability and athleticism of a top ten pick.

            18. Seattle Seahawks – Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame

            For the first time in half a decade, Seattle is going to pretend the offensive line matters. It's part of a bold new initiative to keep Russell Wilson from running for his life on every snap.

            19. Dallas Cowboys – Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia

            The Bulldogs' left tackle doesn't have the ideal height for the spot and moved to guard at the Senior Bowl. He was outstanding. He'll be a step-in starter and a very good one.


            20. Detroit Lions – James Daniels, C, Iowa

            Daniels has some of the steadiest tape in the class. Another plug and play offensive lineman that will improve Detroit up front.

            21. Buffalo Bills – Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan

            They need help filling the void that Marcel Dareus left but they'll have to find a nose tackle later. Here they get a disruptive interior penetrator.

            22. Buffalo Bills – Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville

            I'm ruining my own dream of Lamar in Jacksonville but Buffalo doesn't seem to a fan of Tyrod Taylor and Peterman is not the answer

            23. Los Angeles Rams – Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa

            In coverage and as a ballhawk Jackson is as good as anyone in this class. His willingness to be physical as a tackler needs to be improved on.

            24. Carolina Panthers – DJ Moore, WR, Maryland

            Carolina is no stranger to the short wide receiver and when you watch Moore play, there are shades of Steve Smith in his game. He plays so much bigger than he is and is tough to deal with after the catch.

            25. Tennessee Titans – Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College

            Landry wasn't able to duplicate his 16.5 sack junior season because he was banged up. His natural ability to win the edge and get to QBs is more than enough to make him a first-round pick.

            26. Atlanta Falcons – Da'Ron Payne, DT, Alabama

            His tape in the title game is absolutely first round-quality. Has the power to play the nose tackle and some quickness to help with pass rush.

            27. New Orleans Saints – Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota St.

            Goedert is an easy catcher of the football no matter where it's thrown, with the physical ability to run a variety of routes and create separation. Brees will have fun with him.

            28. Pittsburgh Steelers – Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama

            Evans just feels like a Steeler. He's a versatile piece that plays with power and aggression and can rush the passer as well.

            29. Jacksonville Jaguars – Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP

            Hernandez is a walking refrigerator with much better feet than you'd expect from a man of his massive proportions and small school background.

            30. Minnesota Vikings – Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville

            Alexander makes plays on the ball in man and zone coverage. He has the twitchiness you look for and finishes plays when he has a chance. You can read that as 'he can catch.' He's a low tackler, which does make him miss some.

            31. New England Patriots – Marcus Davenport, Edge, UTSA

            The rich get richer. Davenport is incredibly raw but has all the physical gifts you could want in an edge player. Really good power from a guy as lean as he is.

            32. Philadelphia Eagles – James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State.

            There's no need for Philly to keep Torrey Smith around when they can upgrade from their deep threat.
            2016 DCC LOTY Fantasy Football Champion

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            • #81
              Originally posted by boozeman View Post
              Draft:
              (1,24) Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
              (2,50) Martinas Rankin, OG/OT, Mississippi State
              (3,78) Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina
              (3,88) Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia
              (4,114) Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama
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              Trade down and get Ridley? That's great...
              I was on the draft LVE train. I was for trading for Amari before it happened.
              'nuff said

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              • #82
                Land of 10 predictions
                1. Cleveland Browns — Sam Darnold, QB, USC
                2. New York Giants — Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
                3. Indianapolis Colts — Bradley Chubb, DL, N.C. State
                4. Cleveland Browns — Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
                5. Denver Broncos — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
                6. New York Jets — Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
                7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Derwin James, DB, Florida State
                8. Chicago Bears — Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
                9. San Francisco 49ers — Denzel Ward, DB, Ohio State
                10. Oakland Raiders — Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
                11. Miami Dolphins — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
                12. Cincinnati Bengals — Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
                13. Washington Redskins — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
                14. Green Bay Packers — Joshua Jackson, DB, Iowa
                15. Arizona Cardinals — Connor Williams, OT, Texas
                16. Baltimore Ravens — Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
                17. Los Angeles Chargers — Mike McGlinchey, G, Notre Dame
                18. Seattle Seahawks — James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
                19. Dallas Cowboys — Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
                20. Detroit Lions — Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
                21. Buffalo Bills –Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
                22. Buffalo Bills — Arden Key, DL, LSU
                23. Los Angeles Rams — Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
                24. Carolina Panthers — Marcus Davenport, DL, UTSA
                25. Tennessee Titans — Maurice Hurst, DL, Michigan
                26. Atlanta Falcons — Vita Vea, DL, Washington
                27. New Orleans Saints — Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
                28. Pittsburgh Steelers — Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas
                29. Jacksonville Jaguars — Harold Landry, LB, Boston College
                30. Minnesota Vikings — Billy Price, OL, Ohio State
                31. New England Patriots — Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma
                32. Philadelphia Eagles — Ogbonnia Okoronwko, LB, Oklahoma



                NFL mock draft 2018: ESPN projections by Todd McShay
                1. Cleveland Browns — Sam Darnold, QB, USC
                2. New York Giants — Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
                3. Indianapolis Colts — Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
                4. Cleveland Browns — Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
                5. Denver Broncos — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
                6. New York Jets — Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
                7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama
                8. Chicago Bears — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
                9. San Francisco 49ers — Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
                10. Oakland Raiders — Tremaine Edmunds, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech
                11. Miami Dolphins — Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
                12. Cincinnati Bengals — Connor Williams, T, Texas
                13. Washington Redskins — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
                14. Green Bay Packers — Marcus Davenport, DE, UTSA
                15. Arizona Cardinals — Orlando Brown, T, Oklahoma
                16. Baltimore Ravens — Vita Vea, DT, Washington
                17. Los Angeles Chargers — Derwin James, S, Florida State
                18. Seattle Seahawks — Mike Hughes, CB, UCF
                19. Dallas Cowboys — Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
                20. Detroit Lions — Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia
                21. Buffalo Bills — Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
                22. Buffalo Bills — Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
                23. Los Angeles Rams — Billy Price, G/C, Ohio State
                24. Carolina Panthers — Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
                25. Tennessee Titans — Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
                26. Atlanta Falcons — James Daniels, G/C, Iowa
                27. New Orleans Saints — Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College
                28. Pittsburgh Steelers — Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
                29. Jacksonville Jaguars — Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina
                30. Minnesota Vikings — Mike McGlinchey, T, Notre Dame
                31. New England Patriots — M.J. Stewart, CB, North Carolina
                32. Philadelphia Eagles — Taven Bryan, DT, Florida


                NFL mock draft 2018: Top players, projection for first round

                CBS Sports projection
                1. Cleveland Browns — Sam Darnold, QB, USC
                2. New York Giants — Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
                3. Indianapolis Colts — Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State
                4. Cleveland Browns — Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
                5. Denver Broncos — Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
                6. New York Jets — Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
                7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Derwin James, S, Florida State
                8. Chicago Bears — Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
                9. San Francisco 49ers — Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
                10. Oakland Raiders — Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
                11. Miami Dolphins — Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
                12. Cincinnati Bengals — Connor Williams, T, Texas
                13. Washington Redskins — Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
                14. Green Bay Packers — Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP
                15. Arizona Cardinals — Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
                16. Baltimore Ravens — Orlando Brown, T, Oklahoma
                17. Los Angeles Chargers — Da’Ron Payne, DT, Alabama
                18. Seattle Seahawks — Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
                19. Dallas Cowboys — Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
                20. Detroit Lions — Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
                21. Buffalo Bills — Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
                22. Buffalo Bills — Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan
                23. Los Angeles Rams — Marcus Davenport, DE, UTSA
                24. Carolina Panthers — James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
                25. Tennessee Titans — Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma
                26. Atlanta Falcons — Vita Vea, DT, Washington
                27. New Orleans Saints — Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
                28. Pittsburgh Steelers — Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
                29. Jacksonville Jaguars — Isaiah Wynn, G, Georgia
                30. Minnesota Vikings — Connor Williams, T, Texas
                31. Philadelphia Eagles — Taven Bryan, DL, Florida
                32. New England Patriots — Chukwuma Okorafor, T, Western Michigan
                I was on the draft LVE train. I was for trading for Amari before it happened.
                'nuff said

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                • #83
                  Rashaan Evans at 19? Reach.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by lostxn View Post
                    Trade down and get Ridley? That's great...
                    The getting of the Bryant albatross was just as great.

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                    • #85
                      2018 NFL Mock Draft No. 2
                      Monday, February 12, 2018

                      Josh Norris - Rotoworld

                      Friends, back again.

                      Rather than write an intro you won’t read, I’ll write something short for myself. Lately there’s been hate thrown at mock drafts at this point in the football calendar, specifying the inaccuracies come late April. Of course it will be inaccurate. The goal of every mock draft is to identify current needs, potential needs, draft trends of specific decision makers and highlight names that all of you can go and watch. Accuracy is not exactly the goal.

                      1. Cleveland Browns - QB Sam Darnold, USC - We all know this will be a quarterback, the only question is which one (and to those that don’t see below). We can only assume John Dorsey and Hue Jackson will work in tandem to identify the top passer. Jackson previously discussed his height threshold (6’2), potentially eliminating Baker Mayfield. Peter King cited a scouting source stating Dorsey would fall in love with Josh Allen… but I just can’t. The Darnold versus Rosen debate will rage on for months.

                      Recently I’ve seen the hypothesis the Browns will take a non-quarterback at No. 1 and select one of three names at No. 4. This makes absolutely no sense, as the positional value of quarterback is not equal to others. If a quarterback is worthy of being selected at No. 4, he is worthy of being selected at No. 1. And throwing out Saquon Barkley’s name at No. 1 is totally losing sight of positional importance.

                      Again, “playing the draft” is one thing, but you cannot take that risk this early in the draft. Who is to say another team is not in love with the same passer and is willing to deal major assets to move up to pick two or three? As for the thought that a team can just select Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield or whoever else and be equally as happy… it does not work like that. Teams don’t fall in love with multiple quarterbacks in the same tier. They lock on to one, envision their offense around that player, and try to acquire him.


                      2. New York Giants - QB Josh Rosen, UCLA - With Dave Gettleman in charge, this could absolutely be an offensive lineman or defensive lineman. But Gettleman has been great at finding mid, late or undrafted talents at offensive line. The time is now for the Giants to take a quarterback. Teams need to take advantage of picking in the top two when quarterback is even slightly a need as the working assumption should be that they will never been picking in that range again for a long time.

                      3. Indianapolis Colts - EDGE Bradley Chubb, NC State - The Colts have a number of non-guaranteed contract decisions to make on the defensive side of the ball. The goal of this pick is to find a prospect who creates big plays. Saquon Barkley does that on offense, and Jim Irsay insinuated he’d be in favor of this pick, but the perceived best edge rusher in the country would be ideal as well.

                      4. Cleveland Browns - CB/S Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama - I used to think Fitzpatrick would be a similar situation as Jalen Ramsey out of FSU, in terms of cornerback or safety. Remember, that was a real debate and corner should win out due to positional importance. However, Fitzpatrick just doesn’t have the reps on the outside to make that an easy projection. He certainly looks like an every down starter, either at safety or in the slot.

                      5. Denver Broncos - QB Josh Allen, Wyoming - Paxton Lynch is not it. The Broncos will certainly be in the veteran quarterback market. With that said, there’s plenty of pressure on John Elway to nail a quarterback evaluation. When is the next time the Broncos will be drafting in the top 5? Take advantage of it if there’s a quarterback worthy of the selection, and the Broncos certainly had a first-hand look at Allen. If they liked what they saw is another question.

                      6. New York Jets - RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State - In this scenario the Jets end up with Kirk Cousins. Outside of the Browns, the Jets currently have the most cap space ($73 million) among QB-needy teams with the ability to clear even more. I like Bilal Powell, the Jets like Matt Forte, but both are nearing the end of their guaranteed money.

                      7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - G Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame - Self-evaluation needs to insert itself. I know Jason Licht drafted Kevin Pamphile and signed J.R. Sweezy, but neither are working out. Nelson will be ranked by some as the top prospect in the entire draft, and protecting the interior of the pocket is essential.

                      8. Chicago Bears - LB Roquan Smith, Georgia - The Bears are a difficult team to project for. They are “good” at many spots. In this case, they upgrade a spot that featured multiple players due to injuries over the last few years. Plus, Smith produces Patrick Willis vibes.

                      9. San Francisco 49ers *Coin Flip* - WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama - I almost projected a left tackle of the future here but decided to go with the presumed top receiver in the draft. Pierre Garcon missed time last season, however, he is locked into his deal. Marquise Goodwin took a huge step forward and Trent Taylor might be a solid slot option, but Ridley could infuse early round talent at the position.

                      10. Oakland Raiders *Coin Flip* - LB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech - Edmunds is such an interesting, and potentially unique, prospect. He plays off the ball with range while boasting a 6-foot-4, 250-pound frame. The Raiders off-ball linebackers are a bunch of replaceable talents. A slow linebacker group equals a slow defense.

                      11. Miami Dolphins - G Billy Price, Ohio State - I swear, every year the Dolphins’ top need is offensive line. Price spent 2017 at center, playing at a high level, but he lined up at guard prior to that. Again, some might think this is early for a guard, but protecting the interior is vital.

                      12. Cincinnati Bengals - T Connor Williams, Texas - Another episode of self-scouting is important here. Marvin Lewis and company drafted multiple tackles in recent years with limited success. An upgrade is needed. But looking at Lewis’ history, a first round pick won’t immediately play an important role anyways.

                      13. Washington Redskins - DL Da’Ron Payne, Alabama - I know the Redskins just added an Alabama defensive lineman in the first round last year. They still need more help up front. Turn on Payne’s game versus Georgia and you’ll witness one of the best performances from a prospect last season.

                      14. Green Bay Packers - EDGE Harold Landry, Boston College - 2016 was better than 2017 for Landry. Clay Matthews is 31 and going on the final year of his deal. Nick Perry is solid. Adding another true pass rusher would absolutely help this defense. It will be an interesting offseason for the Packers with a new GM in charge.

                      15. Arizona Cardinals - QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma - The Cardinals released a trailer for a docu-series, and it was focused on finding the team’s next quarterback. That is the clear priority. That means a potential trade up or selecting a passer in this spot, as well as free agency.

                      16. Baltimore Ravens - T Orlando Brown, Oklahoma - Brown will be a controversial prospect. It might not look pretty at all times, but Brown frequently accomplishes his assignment with length, size and power. And when all of those function as one, he moves defenders. In this scenario Brown would play right tackle.

                      17. Los Angeles Chargers - S Derwin James, FSU - I know Tre Boston and Jahleel Addae played at a startable level, but James would be an infusion of talent at the position. I almost gave the Chargers an interior defensive lineman, but they treat those spots like a true rotation.

                      18. Seattle Seahawks - T Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame - The Seahawks started spending resources along the offensive line… with mixed results. Germain Ifedi must be replaced at right tackle, and McGlinchey arguably looked more comfortable at right tackle than on the left side.

                      19. Dallas Cowboys - DL Maurice Hurst, Michigan - I know Vita Vea is on the board, but in Hurst the team is getting more of an upfield, disruptive lineman. He has special moments off the snap, creating instant penetration and totally destroying the offense’s plan.

                      20. Detroit Lions - EDGE Marcus Davenport, UTSA - The Lions just added UTSA’s defensive line coach to the same position. It is also a position of need. We saw the same thing last offseason with the Bills and Zay Jones and the Panthers and Christian McCaffrey. Yes, it’s a leap, but all of this is.

                      21. Buffalo Bills - DL Vita Vea, Washington - Interior defensive line and linebacker play are two critical factors in a Sean McDermott defense. Vea is outstanding against the run and would create space for defenders behind him to run free.

                      22. Buffalo Bills - iOL Isaiah Wynn, Georgia - I absolutely love Wynn’s game. One scout said his future could be at center, and the Bills have a need at one guard spot (potentially another with Richie Incognito aging) and at center with the likely retirement of Eric Wood. Where does that leave the Bills at quarterback? I don’t know, but Kirk Cousins is possible.

                      23. Los Angeles Rams - CB Denzel Ward, Ohio Stae - Trumaine Johnson might not be back. Wade Phillips’ defense reached its ceiling in Denver with three quality corners. I'm sure more corners will go in the first round, and those teams will likely be more clear after free agency.

                      24. Carolina Panthers - TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State - It is a bit difficult to project for a team with a new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator and potentially new general manager. Adding pieces on offense is important, and Goedert can be used in multiple tight end sets and win in individual matchups at multiple levels of the field.

                      25. Tennessee Titans - EDGE Sam Hubbard, Ohio State - Brian Orakpo is on the wrong side of 30 and Derrick Morgan is nearing it. Seeing Mike Vrabel add another edge rusher would not be a surprise, especially one from Ohio State.

                      26. Atlanta Falcons - DL Taven Bryan, Florida - The Falcons love their phrases, mottos and clichιs when evaluating. They always go back to his explosion off the snap, and Bryan certainly has that along the interior.

                      27. New Orleans Saints - EDGE Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forest - It is unfair to ask my friend Cameron Jordan to carry the pass rush for another season. Alex Okafor gave him a bit of help last season. As of now, the edge rushing group kind of falls off a cliff after Hubbard. Ejiofor is having shoulder surgery, but that didn’t keep Takk McKinley out of the first round.

                      28. Pittsburgh Steelers - LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama - The last time Pittsburgh selected a prospect from Alabama? 1998. 20 years is long enough. Evans would add speed to a linebacker group, something that was obviously missed after Ryan Shazier’s injury.

                      29. Jacksonville Jaguars - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M - The Jaguars have decisions to make at receiver with Allen Robinson and Marqise Lee approaching free agency and Allen Hurns out of guaranteed money on his contract. Kirk would give them another big play threat, especially with the ball in his hands.

                      30. Minnesota Vikings - G Will Hernandez, UTEP - When healthy, the Vikings offensive line was very solid. Then injuries hit, and it appears Joe Berger is nearing the end of the road. Enter Hernandez, who is an absolute old school mauler. I can’t wait for Dalvin Cook 2018.

                      31. New England Patriots - T Kolton Miller, UCLA - A goal for the Patriots is to find their future left tackle. Antonio Garcia has upside, but missed his entire rookie season. Miller has a chance to be a popular name after the NFL Combine.

                      32. Philadelphia Eagles - RB Derrius Guice, LSU - It is difficult to find a real need on the Eagles. Linebacker is one spot, due to potential free agents and injuries in 2018. But with LeGarrette Blount a free agent, Jay Ajayi nearing the end of his rookie deal and a tight cap, why not add a great running back talent like Guice?

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                      • #86
                        Mosher has a stiffy for Wynn, which strikes me as overkill. How many years could we keep four #1 o-linemen together?

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by bbgun View Post
                          Mosher has a stiffy for Wynn, which strikes me as overkill. How many years could we keep four #1 o-linemen together?
                          One of the charms about Wynn is that he is a little more versatile as he could conceivably play tackle.

                          Now if he were talking about a pure guard, yeah, that is a problem trying to keep them all together.

                          Personally, I think Martin should be the last one we lock up. I know people think Collins is all that, but it is not sustainable to have four of your linemen be at the top of your payroll every year.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by boozeman View Post
                            One of the charms about Wynn is that he is a little more versatile as he could conceivably play tackle.

                            Now if he were talking about a pure guard, yeah, that is a problem trying to keep them all together.

                            Personally, I think Martin should be the last one we lock up. I know people think Collins is all that, but it is not sustainable to have four of your linemen be at the top of your payroll every year.
                            By the time a rookie OL is off their cheap rookie deal Martin and Smith will be 32, and Frederick will be 31, not time to kick them to the curb obviously but I think you're at least thinking about the future at that point.

                            It might still be a little early to draft an OL that high but I don't think it's completely unreasonable, and it would definitely be a prudent move a year or two from now, assuming the value is there obviously.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Simpleton View Post
                              By the time a rookie OL is off their cheap rookie deal Martin and Smith will be 32, and Frederick will be 31, not time to kick them to the curb obviously but I think you're at least thinking about the future at that point.

                              It might still be a little early to draft an OL that high but I don't think it's completely unreasonable, and it would definitely be a prudent move a year or two from now, assuming the value is there obviously.
                              But if you aren't kicking those guys to the curb than you're going to end up with 4 O-lineman taking up the vast majority of your salary cap. I'm just not sure that's feasible unless you're cutting one of those 32 year olds.

                              But shit that's something to worry about 5 years from now. Which is why I'd be ok with it as long as the O-lineman we draft is elite and not just a solid flexible guy.

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                                Want to see a shitty mock?

                                Here you go. Casserly is a fucking idiot.
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                                Charley Casserly mock draft 1.0: Colts snag Saquon Barkley
                                By Charley Casserly
                                NFL Media analyst
                                Published: Feb. 13, 2018 at 08:53 a.m.
                                Updated: Feb. 13, 2018 at 09:00 a.m.





                                With the NFL Scouting Combine (March 2-5 on NFL Network) just around the corner, here's my first mock of the 2018 NFL Draft.
                                NOTE: There's a tie for the ninth overall pick. A coin flip between the San Francisco 49ers and Oakland Raiders will determine which team picks first.

                                PICK
                                1 - Browns

                                Sam Darnold - QB, USC


                                Darnold is the best QB in the draft.


                                PICK
                                2 - Giants

                                Josh Rosen - QB, UCLA


                                The Giants land the most pro-ready QB in the draft.


                                PICK
                                3 - Colts

                                Saquon Barkley - RB, Penn State


                                Andrew Luck gets a dominant runner.


                                PICK
                                4 - Browns

                                Minkah Fitzpatrick - DB, Alabama


                                A versatile talent who can play CB or S.


                                PICK
                                5 - Broncos

                                Marcus Davenport - OLB, UTSA


                                Davenport is an excellent pass rusher; best as a 3-4 OLB.


                                PICK
                                6 - Jets

                                Baker Mayfield - QB, Oklahoma


                                Will Mayfield have the best NFL career of any QB in this class?


                                PICK
                                7 - Bucs

                                Bradley Chubb - DE, N.C. State


                                Improving the pass rush is a major need for Tampa Bay.


                                PICK
                                8 - Bears

                                Calvin Ridley - WR, Alabama


                                The Bears get Mitchell Trubisky a weapon with this pick.


                                PICK
                                9 - 49ers

                                Denzel Ward - CB, Ohio State


                                With Bradley Chubb off the board, the 49ers fill their next biggest need on defense.


                                PICK
                                9 - Raiders

                                Tremaine Edmunds - LB, Virginia Tech


                                Edmunds is the best all-around LB in the draft.


                                PICK
                                11 - Dolphins

                                Roquan Smith - LB, Georgia


                                Smith's an excellent athlete who excels in coverage.


                                PICK
                                12 - Bengals

                                Quenton Nelson - OG, Notre Dame


                                The Bengals land the best player in the draft. They bypass a bigger need at OT to get Nelson.


                                PICK
                                13 - Redskins

                                Vita Vea - DT, Washington


                                With Vea and Jonathan Allen, the D-line all of a sudden becomes a strength of the team.


                                PICK
                                14 - Packers

                                Mike Hughes - CB, UCF


                                Hughes is a versatile CB who can play both off and press coverage.


                                PICK
                                15 - Cardinals

                                Josh Allen - QB, Wyoming


                                Allen will be the fourth QB off the board. Arizona would do cartwheels if he were still available here. Someone will probably trade up to get him, and maybe Arizona will be the team to do it.


                                PICK
                                16 - Ravens

                                Mike McGlinchey - OT, Notre Dame


                                This gives the Ravens a bookend OT with Ronnie Stanley.


                                PICK
                                17 - Chargers

                                Rashaan Evans - LB, Alabama


                                A DT is also a possibility here.


                                PICK
                                18 - Seahawks

                                Arden Key - DE, LSU


                                With questions about whether Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril will be with the Seahawks next season, a pass rusher will be needed.


                                PICK
                                19 - Cowboys

                                Taven Bryan - DT, Florida


                                Bryan has excellent upfield quickness. He fits Rod Marinelli's scheme.


                                PICK
                                20 - Lions

                                Da'Ron Payne - DT, Alabama


                                Strong player vs. the run, and he has some pass-rush potential.


                                PICK
                                21 - Bills

                                Billy Price - C, Ohio State


                                The first priority for Buffalo should be to trade up to get a QB. If that doesn't work out, then Price can replace Eric Wood at center.


                                PICK
                                22 - Bills

                                Josh Jackson - CB, Iowa


                                The Bills get a bookend CB to pair with Tre'Davious White.


                                PICK
                                23 - Rams

                                Isaiah Oliver - CB, Colorado


                                Trumaine Johnson is due to become a free agent, and CB is already a weakness for the Rams.


                                PICK
                                24 - Panthers

                                Christian Kirk - WR, Texas A&M


                                The Panthers need a speedy WR. Kirk fits the bill.


                                PICK
                                25 - Titans

                                James Daniels - C/OG, Iowa


                                Help is needed on the interior of the Titans' O-line.


                                PICK
                                26 - Falcons

                                Isaiah Wynn - OG, Georgia


                                He played left tackle in college but fits best as a guard at the next level.


                                PICK
                                27 - Saints

                                Harold Landry - DE/OLB, Boston College


                                Landry racked up 16.5 sacks in 2016 before an injury-plagued senior season.


                                PICK
                                28 - Steelers

                                Derrius Guice - RB, LSU


                                I am not optimistic the Steelers will get a long-term deal done with Le'Veon Bell, which is why Guice makes sense here.


                                PICK
                                29 - Jags

                                Connor Williams - OT, Texas


                                TE and WR are also a possibility here.


                                PICK
                                30 - Vikings

                                Derwin James - S, FSU


                                Solidifies the safety position opposite Harrison Smith.


                                PICK
                                31 - Patriots

                                Harrison Phillips - DT, Stanford


                                Phillips is a run-stopper. He fills a need for New England.


                                PICK
                                32 - Eagles

                                Donte Jackson - CB, LSU


                                Philly has worked to improve the CB position, but the Eagles still need help there.

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