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  • #61
    Originally posted by bbgun View Post
    "One good draft plus some key free agent acquisitions and Dak will be good as new." That's how Jerry thinks, which is why radical change is a longshot.
    As long as Jerry and the Idiot Son are running the show and Garrett's the HC, draft picks are nothing more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
      Not siding here but what else can he say at this point and not make matters worse. I dont know if there is anything being kicked around by management but they obviously cant be happy right now.
      I'd buy your logic, but its not the logic that the other teams in the NFL use. They call a spade a spade, and at least give their teams fans a hope that change is coming. Even the sad sack of shit Washington owner Snyder has put Gruden on notice that this year has to produce results.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Chocolate Lab View Post
        Repeating myself again, but what I see is that Stephen is very arrogant about his abilities -- he's basically taken over for his dad the last few years and the drafting has improved, so he thinks he's a great personnel man. He's still confident that the team he's decided on is that talented and capable and will turn it around because dammit, he put this team together and he's good.

        Always thought it would be a slow, painful process for him to learn that he's not that smart and he will make mistakes that need to be corrected.
        Its pretty obvious to the smart football fans that the Jones family caught lightning in a bottle with Johnson and the slew of Herschel draft picks to win a few SB's. Since then and after Jerry said he would win things doing it "his way" its been a long draught of playoff wins and SB appearances.

        Clearly, a good football fan can see that BOTH Jones overplay the talent on both sides of the ball. Many of the players they pump up to the media are probably 2nd stringers on most contending teams...hence the fact that Dallas never makes it into the money rounds.

        Todays NFL doesn't rely on 1-2 star players anymore....it relies on really good players sprinkled thruout the roster, most of which come via the draft and out of FA. Dallas sucks at both, although the draft has gotten better, they refuse to upgrade positions that would make a difference in getting to the next level because of the overvaluation of current roster talent.

        Its a huge problem.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by UncleMilti View Post
          Its pretty obvious to the smart football fans that the Jones family caught lightning in a bottle with Johnson and the slew of Herschel draft picks to win a few SB's. Since then and after Jerry said he would win things doing it "his way" its been a long draught of playoff wins and SB appearances.

          Clearly, a good football fan can see that BOTH Jones overplay the talent on both sides of the ball. Many of the players they pump up to the media are probably 2nd stringers on most contending teams...hence the fact that Dallas never makes it into the money rounds.

          Todays NFL doesn't rely on 1-2 star players anymore....it relies on really good players sprinkled thruout the roster, most of which come via the draft and out of FA. Dallas sucks at both, although the draft has gotten better, they refuse to upgrade positions that would make a difference in getting to the next level because of the overvaluation of current roster talent.

          Its a huge problem.
          Well there is 32 teams in the league so all things being equal he should have won ~1 SB in the ~30 years since he bought the team. He's won 3. So, as much as we would love to pretend he's a moron and a POS and all the rest, he's beat the averages. Would you trade him for Snyder?

          But whatever. Arguing we needing to get rid of the Joneses is just a waste of air not worth discussing.
          I was on the draft LVE train. I was for trading for Amari before it happened.
          'nuff said

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          • #65
            Originally posted by lostxn View Post
            Well there is 32 teams in the league so all things being equal he should have won ~1 SB in the ~30 years since he bought the team. He's won 3. So, as much as we would love to pretend he's a moron and a POS and all the rest, he's beat the averages. Would you trade him for Snyder?

            But whatever. Arguing we needing to get rid of the Joneses is just a waste of air not worth discussing.
            So why are we the team that we are since Jimmy left if Jerry was so involved? You would think that he could stumble on some kind of success in the past 20 years if he was a sound football mind.

            If you season ticket holders would stop going to the games then maybe we could see some kind of substantial change. I do agree that that aint happening so we are left with being the New Cleveland Browns.
            #Fire Garrett

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Rev View Post
              So why are we the team that we are since Jimmy left if Jerry was so involved? You would think that he could stumble on some kind of success in the past 20 years if he was a sound football mind.

              If you season ticket holders would stop going to the games then maybe we could see some kind of substantial change. I do agree that that aint happening so we are left with being the New Cleveland Browns.
              At least Cleveland could get excited about a top 5 draft pick every year. We're stuck in 8-8 hell most of the time. Not good enough to advance into and through the playoffs and not bad enough to infuse real blue chip talent with high draft picks.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Bluestar71 View Post
                At least Cleveland could get excited about a top 5 draft pick every year. We're stuck in 8-8 hell most of the time. Not good enough to advance into and through the playoffs and not bad enough to infuse real blue chip talent with high draft picks.
                So many wasted top draft picks but I'm with you.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by lostxn View Post
                  Well there is 32 teams in the league so all things being equal he should have won ~1 SB in the ~30 years since he bought the team. He's won 3. So, as much as we would love to pretend he's a moron and a POS and all the rest, he's beat the averages. Would you trade him for Snyder?

                  But whatever. Arguing we needing to get rid of the Joneses is just a waste of air not worth discussing.
                  Anyone with half a brain knows Johnson picked the players that won those 3 SBs.

                  If Jones was so adept at assembling a good roster hed at least been to the playoffs and even contending for division titles with some consistency over the last 25 years. Id even be happy with a CHANCE at the playoffs on a regular basis. But instead the team is mired in mediocrity.

                  Definitely would not have Snyder, but he finally did get a couple smart FO guys and they picked some pretty damn good players in the last few drafts.

                  But like you said as long as there is a Jerry and Stephen Jones with their hand in the pot its not going to get any better.

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                  • #69
                    Yup Jerry is definitely a racist, he should be forced to sell the team immediately!!
                    2018 DCC Super Bowl Bingo Champion

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by jsmith6919 View Post
                      Yup Jerry is definitely a racist, he should be forced to sell the team immediately!!
                      I'm certainly not trying to defend Jones and Garrett, but if this is strictly a white man keeping his job after such a long stretch of bad coaching, why does Marvin Lewis still have his job?

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                      • #71
                        He's also called for Lewis to be fired. Garrett is the coach not because he's white but because he's a pushover who will put up with endless bullshit from the owner.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by NoDak View Post
                          I'm certainly not trying to defend Jones and Garrett, but if this is strictly a white man keeping his job after such a long stretch of bad coaching, why does Marvin Lewis still have his job?
                          Shush damnit, Jerry already got caught with a couple hookers and laughed off that controversy, this is probably our last shot
                          2018 DCC Super Bowl Bingo Champion

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by NoDak View Post
                            I'm certainly not trying to defend Jones and Garrett, but if this is strictly a white man keeping his job after such a long stretch of bad coaching, why does Marvin Lewis still have his job?
                            Shit, how about Hue Jackson?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by boozeman View Post
                              Shit, how about Hue Jackson?
                              Yeah. I don't think this has anything to do with race, as that dumbass Stephen A. Smith is trying so hard to push. I'd say he is right initially, when he says Garrett still has his job because of his relationship with Jones. But then he goes off the rails trying to say it's a race thing. I'd say it's just shitty owners that get comfortable with what they have and are ok with it.

                              I wonder if anybody has asked him to explain why Jackson and Lewis still have their jobs.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by UncleMilti View Post
                                Anyone with half a brain knows Johnson picked the players that won those 3 SBs.

                                If Jones was so adept at assembling a good roster hed at least been to the playoffs and even contending for division titles with some consistency over the last 25 years. Id even be happy with a CHANCE at the playoffs on a regular basis. But instead the team is mired in mediocrity.

                                Definitely would not have Snyder, but he finally did get a couple smart FO guys and they picked some pretty damn good players in the last few drafts.

                                But like you said as long as there is a Jerry and Stephen Jones with their hand in the pot its not going to get any better.
                                Who fucking cares? This is nothing that is going to change. The coach can definitely change and a fan upswell demanding his head will get him fired. It's worked before and it will work this year.
                                I was on the draft LVE train. I was for trading for Amari before it happened.
                                'nuff said

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