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  • Originally posted by mcnuttz View Post
    Can't have a steak on every plate.

    We're set up pretty well at DE and CB, some potential at LB to have a good year. Surely Heath and Woods can hold down the safety spots for a year.
    I am counting on Woods taking a step this year. If he can, we will be fine at the position.
    2016 DCC LOTY Fantasy Football Champion

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    • Originally posted by mcnuttz View Post
      Can't have a steak on every plate.

      We're set up pretty well at DE and CB, some potential at LB to have a good year. Surely Heath and Woods can hold down the safety spots for a year.
      Frazier is a good box safety too, I think we're pretty well covered as far as box safeties/guys who can come down and cover the slot and within 10 or so yards, my only concern is whether or not we have a guy who we can truly count on as that single-high Cover-3 safety who needs to have the range and ability to diagnose to cover a lot of ground.

      I think Woods could potentially be that guy but of course we don't know for sure.

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      • Surprisingly enough Jeff Heath has steadily improved. His hustle on the last defensive play basically won the Oakland game after Lewis tried his best to lose it.

        He might have grown to Church's level, which is fine.

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        • Originally posted by ravidubey View Post
          Surprisingly enough Jeff Heath has steadily improved. His hustle on the last defensive play basically won the Oakland game after Lewis tried his best to lose it.

          He might have grown to Church's level, which is fine.
          That PI was bullshit

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          • Originally posted by ravidubey View Post
            Surprisingly enough Jeff Heath has steadily improved. His hustle on the last defensive play basically won the Oakland game after Lewis tried his best to lose it.

            He might have grown to Church's level, which is fine.
            I have always liked Heath. He is a scrapper type. He may not have an abundance of finess but he is a sure tackler and never quits on a play. He isn’t strong as coverage back because of his read abilities but that is improving. The bottom line is he is physical and a good tackler.
            Since Day One

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            • Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
              That PI was bullshit
              Eh, his back is turned at the absolute wrong time. You’ve got to be aware in that situation and not give a home team on national TV a chance for a dumb penalty. A good experience for Lewis on situational awareness.

              And it doesn’t diminish Heath’s balls out play that preserved the win.

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              • Todd Archer did a chat with a Seahawks writer and he (the Seattle guy) said that maybe the Cowboys could throw in a sweetner like Kony Ealy.

                Uh, they can have Ealy and Charles Tapper right now, straight up, for Earl Thomas. The Seahawks are projected to start Frank Clark and Dion Jordan and end, so, they could use the help, and we have too many DEs as it is.

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                • Originally posted by mschmidt64 View Post
                  Todd Archer did a chat with a Seahawks writer and he (the Seattle guy) said that maybe the Cowboys could throw in a sweetner like Kony Ealy.

                  Uh, they can have Ealy and Charles Tapper right now, straight up, for Earl Thomas. The Seahawks are projected to start Frank Clark and Dion Jordan and end, so, they could use the help, and we have too many DEs as it is.
                  I'm sure it was meant in the context of "throwing them in" along with a 2019 3rd.

                  There's a 0.0% chance they're trading Thomas for two borderline 53 types in Ealy and Tapper.

                  They aren't deep but Clark is excellent so it's not like they're completely bare at DE, certainly not bare enough to trade Thomas for two guys who are more or less scrubs.

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                  • Originally posted by mschmidt64 View Post
                    Todd Archer did a chat with a Seahawks writer and he (the Seattle guy) said that maybe the Cowboys could throw in a sweetner like Kony Ealy.

                    Uh, they can have Ealy and Charles Tapper right now, straight up, for Earl Thomas. The Seahawks are projected to start Frank Clark and Dion Jordan and end, so, they could use the help, and we have too many DEs as it is.
                    I feel like the only people still discussing this are the sportswriters.
                    I was on the draft LVE train. I was for trading for Amari before it happened.
                    'nuff said

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                    • It seems to be all but dead.
                      defense wins championships

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                      • Rapoport says the Seahawks want a 2nd and change for Thomas, we're only offering a 3rd. If he doesn't get moved this week I don't think any team would give up premium picks for a guy midseason, so Seattle would either have to keep him or send him to Dallas, who I presume would be fine adding him at any point given his history with Richard in the scheme.

                        I think the Seahawks are cutting off their nose to spite their face not taking the 3rd though, if they have decided that they won't extend him there's no point to keeping him for basically half a season where he's going to be a malcontent. Just take your 3rd in 2019 instead of the comp in 2020 and be done with it.

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                        • Originally posted by Simpleton View Post
                          Rapoport says the Seahawks want a 2nd and change for Thomas, we're only offering a 3rd. If he doesn't get moved this week I don't think any team would give up premium picks for a guy midseason, so Seattle would either have to keep him or send him to Dallas, who I presume would be fine adding him at any point given his history with Richard in the scheme.

                          I think the Seahawks are cutting off their nose to spite their face not taking the 3rd though, if they have decided that they won't extend him there's no point to keeping him for basically half a season where he's going to be a malcontent. Just take your 3rd in 2019 instead of the comp in 2020 and be done with it.
                          I wouldn't give up a third either. But I would love to see him in Dallas.

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                          • Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
                            I wouldn't give up a third either. But I would love to see him in Dallas.
                            That's how I feel. At this point though I won't bitch (much) if we give up a third. I wouldn't do it but it wouldn't cripple us either.

                            But if we cave and give up a second (or more) I'll be very unhappy.

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                            • Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
                              I wouldn't give up a third either. But I would love to see him in Dallas.
                              I'd be fine with a 3rd. If we're including this year I think he still has about 3-4 years left of elite level play, and he might be able to squeeze out a 5th at 33.

                              At any rate, I think it's a calculated gamble that I'd be willing to take. If Lee and Gregory can stay on the field I think the defense could be Super Bowl-caliber elite if you add a guy like Thomas on the back end. Lee and Thomas are two of the most instinctive, cerebral players in the league, put them together along with Lawrence/Gregory/Charlton off the edge and Jones/Awuzie on the outside, not to mention the rest of the depth at LB, and I think that's a defense that could theoretically (ignoring our shitbox coaching for a second) carry a team deep into the playoffs.

                              It could also fail spectacularly and we could easily end up regretting giving up that pick but it's a gamble I'd take.

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                              • Originally posted by Simpleton View Post
                                Rapoport says the Seahawks want a 2nd and change for Thomas, we're only offering a 3rd. If he doesn't get moved this week I don't think any team would give up premium picks for a guy midseason, so Seattle would either have to keep him or send him to Dallas, who I presume would be fine adding him at any point given his history with Richard in the scheme.

                                I think the Seahawks are cutting off their nose to spite their face not taking the 3rd though, if they have decided that they won't extend him there's no point to keeping him for basically half a season where he's going to be a malcontent. Just take your 3rd in 2019 instead of the comp in 2020 and be done with it.
                                I'm losing interest in this trade the more and more I see Dallas offense's struggle or lose players.

                                Seattle's best bet was to strike while we were feeling optimistic.

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