Genghis Khan
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*or the coaching improving
But, Geng, he has shown the be lazy, slow, and can’t get separation. That’s the problem. Couple that with the drops and yammering for the ball, and you have a detriment to the offense.Yep, yep and yep.
I mean, who the hell has an emotional connection to Dez? Certainly no one here for the most part.
The emotions mostly seem to be coming from the"dump him" side.
Personally, I'm looking at this logically. If we were presented with the opportunity to replace him with a roughly equivalent caliber player who is younger and/or cheaper, I'm all for it.
But this emotional outburst narrative that claims that he is lazy, slow, and can't get separation is simply false. He's certainly flawed but he can still make plays and he still draws coverage, and he can still be pretty productive if the QB connects with him.
The money argument is the best argument against keeping him, but someone would have to convince me that we'd use that money savings in a way that would benefit the team more than simply keeping him would. I just don't see us using the money savings in any better way.
My overall point though, is that if people think dumping Dez will cure all or even most or much of what ails this offense, they are in for a rude awakening. This offense won't improve without the QB improving.
You're right, for you it's about Dak. Can't be that Dez is part of problem because that somehow absolves Dak in your mind. Dumping Dez as least cures some of the problem though which is the point. Because Dak isn't going anywhere.My overall point though, is that if people think dumping Dez will cure all or even most or much of what ails this offense, they are in for a rude awakening. This offense won't improve without the QB improving.
He's not different than he ever was back when he was putting up elite numbers.But, Geng, he has shown the be lazy, slow, and can’t get separation. That’s the problem. Couple that with the drops and yammering for the ball, and you have a detriment to the offense.
I disagree.He's not different than he ever was back when he was putting up elite numbers.
I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that the most important position in sports has by far the biggest impact on an offense.You're right, for you it's about Dak. Can't be that Dez is part of problem because that somehow absolves Dak in your mind. Dumping Dez as least cures some of the problem though which is the point. Because Dak isn't going anywhere.
You are giving him way too much credit.But this emotional outburst narrative that claims that he is lazy, slow, and can't get separation is simply false. He's certainly flawed but he can still make plays and he still draws coverage, and he can still be pretty productive if the QB connects with him.
He does but if you're hoping we move on from Dak you're living in a dream world. At 24 he will get better. As responsible as he was for the struggle last year he was just as responsible for the stellar 2016 season. So you hope he can get back to that. A season in which Dez only had 97 targets. He was a far smaller piece of our offense then. Which is actually the role I'd love to keep Dez around for. Just not at a cap cost of 16.5 mil.I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that the most important position in sports has by far the biggest impact on an offense.
He is way different. He is a guy who got by with freak athletic ability whose athleticism has diminished. Which isn't surprising since Dez has taken a beating over his career. By far our most physical WR when running and catching the ball.He's not different than he ever was back when he was putting up elite numbers.
http://www.dallascowboyscentral.com/showthread.php?7219-Sturm-Figuring-Out-Dez-Bryant-%96-And-Where-His-Situation-Is-HeadedPeople are too emotional to actually bring up relevant information. It's all general terms.
Dez is holding the offense back, because it's too scary to blame the QB or coaches.
What the hell does liberal have to do with it? That's a conservative douche thing to day.
A quote from this very article:
Every stat showed Dak was the next coming of Jesus.
Every stat shows we are far worse when throwing to Dez than anyone else. I think you're confused on whose eyes are shut. Imaging that it's still 2014 and Dez is in his prime is the epitome of closing your eyes to the truth.
More like taken out of the game by refs who let CBs do whatever they want to Dez. It’s like you’re watching the Patriots ass rape Marshall Faulk in 2001/2002 all over again.You are giving him way too much credit.
He can be taken out of any game by a talkative, physical CB. This "dominance" you claim is still there only manifests itself when he plays the Bradley Fletchers of this league.
Every stat showed Dak was the next coming of Jesus.
Funny how shit changes and how most stats don’t tell you a damned thing.
Football is is way too complex to judge using stats.
People have tried, but the game is unpredictable and will always be best judged by those who know it and watch it carefully.
You havent said anything about what you would propose his 'keeping' price to be. Please bolster your argument by seeing it through to a practical conclusion. This MF expects his $16M; that aint't happenin, so then what would you propose to give him that will appease his mature sense of self worth? I, for one, will proceed with the assumption that if he's on the roster, his production numbers will be the same or worse. That'll be just great.A quote from this very article:
“Is that enough to say goodbye? Again, I don't believe that at all. Dez Bryant affects coverage. He keeps secondaries on notice. He makes safeties nervous. Yes, this will continue to diminish as defenses lose their fear of him as his skills diminish, but I saw enough rolling coverage in 2017 to conclude that he still is the biggest weapon for Prescott and he still causes defenses stress, which, in turn, makes the running game's job easier due to higher safeties.”IOW, EXAcTLY what I’ve been saying. Again.