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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    I still can't believe that we use Witten on nearly 100% of our offensive snaps. It's insane to me. I don't think that's Witten's fault but it holds this offense back tremendously. I think Witten could be useful as a #2 TE but the way we are using him is definitely holding the offense back.
    You honestly think he'll take that demotion? The guy has pride in rarely missing plays/games.

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    • #17
      Witten is being misused. The alignments have him more as a blocker than a receiver. This is why his reception averages are much lower this past season. He protects first then does his route. His can not get very far into the route this way.
      Since Day One

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Simpleton View Post
        He was very good in 2015, he just couldn't stay on the field for different reasons as a rookie and in 2016.

        As long as he stays healthy and doesn't do some dumb shit to get suspended I wouldn't worry.
        You're dismissing his track record and counting on hope, which we all know ain't advisable.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by bbgun View Post
          You're dismissing his track record and counting on hope, which we all know ain't advisable.
          It's not a long track record, to be fair.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bbgun View Post
            You're dismissing his track record and counting on hope, which we all know ain't advisable.
            Yea and then it comes down to a risk evaluation.

            Are you willing to risk him staying healthy and/or not getting suspended for dumb shit?

            Obviously the team has much more intimate information that would feed such a decision, but from the outside, would you rather take that risk knowing what you know or would you rather risk losing a 26 year old DE who could give you double digit sacks for the next 5-7 years and see what you can find in the draft?

            I know which risk I'd rather take.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
              Witten is being misused. The alignments have him more as a blocker than a receiver. This is why his reception averages are much lower this past season. He protects first then does his route. His can not get very far into the route this way.
              He was literally on the field when we went no RB 5 wide spread bullshit. I'd say he had way too many opportunities to catch passes if anything. Hell there were times last year when he was one of only two guys on offense even running a route on some passing plays.

              By the way, I think Witten is a company man. So if Garrett came to him and said hey we need you to take on a reduced role in the offense Witten would do what he is told. It's the kind of guy he is. Very little ego from what I can tell.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
                He was literally on the field when we went no RB 5 wide spread bullshit. I'd say he had way too many opportunities to catch passes if anything. Hell there were times last year when he was one of only two guys on offense even running a route on some passing plays.

                By the way, I think Witten is a company man. So if Garrett came to him and said hey we need you to take on a reduced role in the offense Witten would do what he is told. It's the kind of guy he is. Very little ego from what I can tell.
                You don't play damn near 100% of the snaps not playing in empty sets. The only misuse is having him on the field in those situations.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by boozeman View Post
                  You don't play damn near 100% of the snaps not playing in empty sets. The only misuse is having him on the field in those situations.
                  Yeah, the guy literally was only behind Dak Prescott, La'el Collins and Frederick in terms of snap count. He played in 98.4% of the offensive snaps. Considering Dak was only at 98.59% it sort of tells you that Witten was basically on the field for every meaningful snap.

                  And I agree, the misuse is no taking him off the field. The dude is old, you'd think the coaches would at least give him some breathers to preserve his energy at that age. It's just crazy to me. Was there another NFL team who used their TE that much? I doubt it. NFL elite TE's were down in the 70% range from what I can see.

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                  • #24
                    I told you I heard Witten on the Ticket saying he doesn't get tired, so why would he come off the field? He genuinely couldn't understand it.

                    He may seem like he has no ego, but he does. He thinks he's one of the best so the team has the best chance if he's playing and not on the sideline.
                    2014=2009, 2015=2010?

                    The Garrett Song

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Chocolate Lab View Post
                      I told you I heard Witten on the Ticket saying he doesn't get tired, so why would he come off the field? He genuinely couldn't understand it.

                      He may seem like he has no ego, but he does. He thinks he's one of the best so the team has the best chance if he's playing and not on the sideline.
                      I don't know, why did Rob Gronkowski play 79%, Kelce play 84%, Ertz 68%, Jimmy Graham 68%, Delanie Walker 72% even though they are all better/younger TE's than Witten. It's a joke. And I think the problem is less Witten and more Jerry/Garrett making him feel like he is untouchable. We have no one with the balls to walk up to an all timer like Witten and say hey, we need you off the field in obvious passing situations because you literally are fucking our offense.

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                      • #26
                        No doubt. I don't even blame Witten. He should feel that way. It's up to a coach with balls to tell him we're not doing that anymore.
                        2014=2009, 2015=2010?

                        The Garrett Song

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Simpleton View Post
                          Dez, Witten, Scandrick, Crawford, and maybe Lee will all be gone by 2020 I'd imagine, those are five of the biggest contracts on the team right now.

                          Figure out a way to fit him in now and there should be plenty of space by Year 2-4 of the contract.
                          On the flip side, by 2020, won't both Dak and Zeke be on their second contracts? Dak could be ridiculously overpaid the way the QB market is always growing. Just look at what Garrapolo got in San Fran after 6 games for example.

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                          • #28
                            If you're going to have large chunks of your cap tied up in individuals, I'm all for those individuals being game changing players at the LOS, in the prime of their careers.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
                              He was literally on the field when we went no RB 5 wide spread bullshit. I'd say he had way too many opportunities to catch passes if anything. Hell there were times last year when he was one of only two guys on offense even running a route on some passing plays.

                              By the way, I think Witten is a company man. So if Garrett came to him and said hey we need you to take on a reduced role in the offense Witten would do what he is told. It's the kind of guy he is. Very little ego from what I can tell.
                              I am saying he is used too much as a protective player. He isn’t going out on a route at the snap instead he engages a defender before starts a route. It’s not a matter of how much he is on the field it’s the alignment and assignment he deals with now trying to protect the QB. The OL seems to have needed more help this past season with the blocking.
                              Since Day One

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                              • #30
                                Witten would have been been much more valuable if Romo was still around. They'd played together so long that Romo knew where he'd be on every play. He didn't have to be ipen, Romo would chuck it.

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