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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    I hate that guy so much too. I don't know what it is about Packers' QBs but they always seem to piss me off.
    We used to kick Fav-Ruh's ass on a yearly basis.

    Rodgers? Nope.

    He lives to play against Marinelli defenses.

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    • #32
      I think there are a few people who aren't drinking the Eagle Koolaid and hanging off Pederson's ballsack just yet.

      Yes, he did a great job getting the Eagles to a SB win and implemented a gameplan that played to Foles strength... but all this "best coach eva love, going for it on 4th down" BS is just that...BS.
      Once Foles was his QB, the pressure was off Pederson, and for a big part off of Foles too. If Foles fucks up and doesn't convert a 4th down, or throws a critical INT on a gadget play...who cares. Who would give him shit? Pederson could scream out "The guy is a backup everybody! What did you expect???" without much repercussion. Foles can tell everyone how he sat around a campfire and was ready to retire and is thankful he got his team to a playoff win, or a SB appearance, blah blah. The pressure was not on him either.

      Foles plays 2 great games at home (thank you Wentz), plays against possibly the worst SB defense ever fielded on the AFC side, and suddenly Pederson is a fucking genius and Foles is being compared to playing on Wentz's level.

      Sorry I don't buy it.

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      • #33
        I agree with unclemilti. I'm not giving Pederson any credit. Winning a super bowl is easy. Losing Wentz actually made it easier for Pederson. He gets no credit from me.

        Heck... the Eagles can have this flash in the pan super bowl celebration. I want more than that. What Garrett is building will lead to Super Bowls. Yes, plural.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Rev View Post
          Kellen Moore as our Head Coach in Waiting. Jerry has a master plan.
          I trust Jerry's process.

          He will find us a Landry before he dies, I just know it!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by UncleMilti View Post
            I think there are a few people who aren't drinking the Eagle Koolaid and hanging off Pederson's ballsack just yet.

            Yes, he did a great job getting the Eagles to a SB win and implemented a gameplan that played to Foles strength... but all this "best coach eva love, going for it on 4th down" BS is just that...BS.
            Once Foles was his QB, the pressure was off Pederson, and for a big part off of Foles too. If Foles fucks up and doesn't convert a 4th down, or throws a critical INT on a gadget play...who cares. Who would give him shit? Pederson could scream out "The guy is a backup everybody! What did you expect???" without much repercussion. Foles can tell everyone how he sat around a campfire and was ready to retire and is thankful he got his team to a playoff win, or a SB appearance, blah blah. The pressure was not on him either.

            Foles plays 2 great games at home (thank you Wentz), plays against possibly the worst SB defense ever fielded on the AFC side, and suddenly Pederson is a fucking genius and Foles is being compared to playing on Wentz's level.

            Sorry I don't buy it.
            I'll partially agree. But if there was this so called "no pressure" attitude, then Dallas and Garrett should've already made a decent run in the playoffs with Romo's and everyone else's injuries.

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            • #36
              simply put, Pederson has done far more in two seasons than Garrett has in 7 years and beyond . Not only has Pederson out coached Garrett, itís patently absurd to minimize Pedersons accomplishments and imply that he was lucky or that this was some fluke. Bullshit .
              Last edited by p1_; 02-09-2018, 01:54 PM.
              defense wins championships

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              • #37
                Originally posted by p1_ View Post
                simply put, Pederson has done far more in two seasons than Garrett has in 7 years and beyond . Not only has Pederson out coached Garrett, it’s patently absurd to minimize Pedersons accomplishments and imply that he was lucky or that this was some fluke. Bullshit .
                Oh it was a great season for them. It doesn't guarantee that he can parlay it into long term success but I don't think it diminishes what he was able to accomplish last season. It was impressive.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
                  Oh it was a great season for them. It doesn't guarantee that he can parlay it into long term success but I don't think it diminishes what he was able to accomplish last season. It was impressive.
                  especially compared to you know who.
                  defense wins championships

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by p1_ View Post
                    simply put, Pederson has done far more in two seasons than Garrett has in 7 years and beyond . Not only has Pederson out coached Garrett, it’s patently absurd to minimize Pedersons accomplishments and imply that he was lucky or that this was some fluke. Bullshit .
                    Pederson did a good job but by the same token he had the players who could deliver. It was a combination of of him devising a game plan a that the team could execute. It’s a winning combination that ultimately unseated the team who had established a dynasty.
                    Since Day One

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
                      Pederson did a good job but by the same token he had the players who could deliver. It was a combination of of him devising a game plan a that the team could execute. It’s a winning combination that ultimately unseated the team who had established a dynasty.
                      In addition the Eagles has to go through some of the toughest defenses to get to the big dance.
                      Since Day One

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by UncleMilti View Post
                        I think there are a few people who aren't drinking the Eagle Koolaid and hanging off Pederson's ballsack just yet.

                        Yes, he did a great job getting the Eagles to a SB win and implemented a gameplan that played to Foles strength... but all this "best coach eva love, going for it on 4th down" BS is just that...BS.
                        Once Foles was his QB, the pressure was off Pederson, and for a big part off of Foles too. If Foles fucks up and doesn't convert a 4th down, or throws a critical INT on a gadget play...who cares. Who would give him shit? Pederson could scream out "The guy is a backup everybody! What did you expect???" without much repercussion. Foles can tell everyone how he sat around a campfire and was ready to retire and is thankful he got his team to a playoff win, or a SB appearance, blah blah. The pressure was not on him either.

                        Foles plays 2 great games at home (thank you Wentz), plays against possibly the worst SB defense ever fielded on the AFC side, and suddenly Pederson is a fucking genius and Foles is being compared to playing on Wentz's level.

                        Sorry I don't buy it.

                        If you think Philly fans would have bought those excuses from Pederson you haven't spent much time in or anywhere near Philly. There's no such thing as "without much repercussion" in Philly. The fans and the media would have second-guessed ad nauseum and would have been ready to burn Pederson at the stake for taking stupid chances with a backup QB.

                        You're the coach in Philly and you get the Eagles to their first SB in umpteen years, the pressure is crushing. Philly is not the kind of place where they put their arm around you and say, "aww, it's okay, you tried really hard."

                        Crowning Pederson a genius is premature and it remains to be seen whether he can sustain 2017's success. But to suggest that he was under no pressure is barking at the moon.

                        In Philly it's part of the culture to crucify sports figures -- it's who they are. I wonder how long Jerry and his family would have lasted there before they were swimming with the fishes.

                        Garrett? He would been wearing cement shoes three years ago.

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                        • #42
                          Philly ainít buying that clap, clap stupidity.
                          defense wins championships

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                          • #43
                            I would love to see how Philly reacted to his stupid huge grin and "How We Doin Guys" after a terrible defeat.

                            Belichick might be the greatest coach of all time and he got more tough questions about Butler after the game than Garrett has ever gotten here, even after some of the worst game mismanagement of all time.
                            2014=2009, 2015=2010?

                            The Garrett Song

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                              • #45
                                I don't know if Pederson is a genius or a coaching savant. But what I do know is what he accomplished this year is remarkable.

                                I mean, Pederson basically shot to shit every crutch Owners and Garrett lovers leaned on in defense of our shit coach. Took over a bad team that traded off many of it's best players under the previous regime. Turned it around with a young quarterback from a small college. Overcame injuries to critical players like the star QB, star LT, quality MLB, underrated utility Darren Sproles, etc.

                                And it should be noted.... Wentz got insanely better under Pedersons tutelage, whereas Dak regressed significantly.

                                But most of all... why I am signing this guys praise so much is he went in the Super Bowl and coached it like he had to carry his balls around in a wheelbarrow. Absolutely fearless, and his team responded. My god, after 8 years of Garrett I'd kill for that bravado and faith in the team on our sideline. The creativity in playcalling. The revamping the offense to suit what Foles did best over the bye. All of it.

                                Deep down I hate the fucking Eagles but god damn I give credit where it's due.

                                Pederson earned every bit of praise he gets, IMO.

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