NoDak
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You're gonna have to point out where he's saying that. I'm not seeing it.So, you're saying we are an elite QB away from making Garrett a good coach?
You're gonna have to point out where he's saying that. I'm not seeing it.So, you're saying we are an elite QB away from making Garrett a good coach?
Meh, I assume he'll want too much money.What about Eric Reid?
I don't know, I remember some solid safeties signing last off season on reasonable deals. But honestly I'm ok waiting on the draft. With Xavier Woods looking good we have the ability to be patient at safety. Even though I'd take a stud in the first in a heart beat. And if I can get a safety cheap in free agency I would do it.Meh, I assume he'll want too much money.
There are plenty of safeties I'd be interested in but I assume guys like him, Vaccaro, Boston, Joyner and so forth will be looking for at least about 7-8 a year, which isn't worth it considering what we already have at safety and what the rest of our roster looks like.
That's only part of the problem. As I pointed out in one of my earlier posts above, even when Dez was paired with Tony Romo he didn't pull in a particularly high percent of passes thrown his way. By contrast our other two top receivers, Terrance Williams and Jason Witten, are pulling in 70% of the passes thrown their way with Dak as the starting QB. Right on par with the numbers they had with Romo.
So getting better play at QB won't fix our Dez problem.
I really wanted Swearinger last year and he only got about 3/10 I believe, if we can get Vaccaro, Boston, Reid, etc. for something like that I'd do it in a second.I don't know, I remember some solid safeties signing last off season on reasonable deals. But honestly I'm ok waiting on the draft. With Xavier Woods looking good we have the ability to be patient at safety. Even though I'd take a stud in the first in a heart beat. And if I can get a safety cheap in free agency I would do it.
Nah, of course not.So, you're saying we are an elite QB away from making Garrett a good coach?
I don't disagree with most of this (although I think point number 1 remains to be seen - Dez hasn't put up prime numbers since 2014 when he was I think 26. Age doesn't catch up to you at 26.).Even with Romo at QB it seemed like the bulk of Dez's catches came from him having to outjump or outmuscle the DB for a tough catch. You don't see him create separation that often.
Overall I'd say it's a 3-part problem, IMO.
1. What I think is happening is Dez has lost some athleticism due to age and injury so he's not winning as many of those jump balls anymore. He lacks the speed and route running ability to beat coverages with underneath routes
2. Dak doesn't have the passing skills to consistently place the ball in the ideal spot for Dez.
3. The coaching staff is incapable of creating mismatches to place their receivers in the best position to succeed.
What about Eric Reid?
"Everything will take of itself" to me implies winning something of significance, but maybe I read it wrong.You're gonna have to point out where he's saying that. I'm not seeing it.
Gotcha. My bad, I did read it wrong.Nah, of course not.
But if you took 2014 Romo and put him on the 2018 Cowboys, or heck current Brees, Ryan, Roethlisberger, etc., you'd get a reasonable approximation of prime Dez back.
The offense as a whole would look better, etc.
That's my thought as wellI really wanted Swearinger last year and he only got about 3/10 I believe, if we can get Vaccaro, Boston, Reid, etc. for something like that I'd do it in a second.
So you think Dez is the same WR as he was in his prime? That's insanityNah, of course not.
But if you took 2014 Romo and put him on the 2018 Cowboys, or heck current Brees, Ryan, Roethlisberger, etc., you'd get a reasonable approximation of prime Dez back.
The offense as a whole would look better, etc.
I could see Dez going to another team and totally falling off the face of the earth. I'd put money down that if we cut him and he signed somewhere else that he doesn't post 1000 yards next year.Dez is better than his production the last three years. Is he Dez Prime, of course no. But he’s damned good.
The only question is will he take less money, maybe go to a more incentive-based deal?
Dez must lead the league in targets that are technically deemed catchable but you’d have to have been bitten by a radioactive spider to actually catch them.I think Dez's numbers were flawed. I know they put a low percentage on his catches vs thrown to, but as many as he dropped last year, there were just as many if not more thrown his way that were uncatchable. Whatever Dak was doing the year before, he wasn't doing this year. And it wasn't just to Dez.
I think it's fair to say that neither one of them performed as well as they did the year before. But even with Dak's inconsistency this past season, Dez only caught 52% of the passes thrown to him in 2016 which is the exact same number as he posted in 2017. So it's not like Dak's poor play is the only reason that we're seeing this watered down version of Dez.I think Dez's numbers were flawed. I know they put a low percentage on his catches vs thrown to, but as many as he dropped last year, there were just as many if not more thrown his way that were uncatchable. Whatever Dak was doing the year before, he wasn't doing this year. And it wasn't just to Dez.
I wouldn't dump him. He just needs to get better at understanding route concepts and coverages. There are plenty of older, slower WRs in the NFL who are performing well mainly because they work at mastering the skills of their trade. Larry Fitzgerald for instance. He's in his mid-thirties and still putting up Pro Bowl numbers.I still believe Dez's strength never was straight-out speed -- 4.52 40 in the combine. So tack on seven years and factor in the effects of age and nagging injuries, and figure by now he could be somewhere north of 4.6. That doesn't scare too many people as a deep threat. Teams used to double him as a common practice. Now they don't so much anymore.
His strengths were always how physical he is (was?): leaping ability, tenacity in going after the ball, muscling through press coverage, etc. He was also dangerous with YAC. But all those yards-after-catch may have taken a toll. He never went down easy.
Jerry lets sentiment and favorite-son thinking cloud his judgment get in the way of hard business decisions when it come to players like Dez -- and Witten, for that matter.
Dump those two guys overboard and use the money to keep Hitchens, Lawrence and Irving, et al.