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    • Originally posted by Chocolate Lab View Post
      And I do think they can and should make a deep run. I don't see any reason they wouldn't. Except for the HC being a big bag of nothing, of course. But even there, our talent is so good they might not need a very good coach.
      HC is exactly the reason why this team has very little chance at making a Super Bowl run.

      We've had some very talented Cowboy teams during the Garrett era (dating back to 2007) and they've all failed to even sniff the conference championship round. I fail to see how this year will be any different just because Kellen Moore is the new OC. If you believe in Kellen Moore you're doing so purely on blind fan faith. He's basically coming into this thing under the same circumstance of nepotism like Jason Garrett back in 2007. His coaching resume is as bare as a newborn baby.

      So no, I don't see Jason Garrett leading this team on a deep playoff run.

      He's basically, as you Game of Thrones nerds would put it: Jason Garrett - King of House Ginger, the Third of his Name, Waster of Talent, Lord of Wasted Challenges, the Father of Clapping, Breaker of Fan Enthusiasm, Creator of Dull Schemes.

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        • Originally posted by 1bigfan13 View Post
          We've had some very talented Cowboy teams during the Garrett era (dating back to 2007) and they've all failed to even sniff the conference championship round. I fail to see how this year will be any different just because Kellen Moore is the new OC. If you believe in Kellen Moore you're doing so purely on blind fan faith. He's basically coming into this thing under the same circumstance of nepotism like Jason Garrett back in 2007. His coaching resume is as bare as a newborn baby.

          So no, I don't see Jason Garrett leading this team on a deep playoff run.
          Addressing some points...

          1. I think this team is quite a bit more talented than 2007, and probably the most talented one they've had in 20 years
          2. I have no faith in Moore at all, but as long as he's just average, it's the players that make the difference
          3. I don't see Garrett leading anything except field trips and his own promotion, but again, I don't think Brian Billick led the Ravens to a title, either.
          2014=2009, 2015=2010?

          The Garrett Song

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          • Originally posted by Chocolate Lab View Post
            Addressing some points...

            1. I think this team is quite a bit more talented than 2007, and probably the most talented one they've had in 20 years
            2. I have no faith in Moore at all, but as long as he's just average, it's the players that make the difference
            3. I don't see Garrett leading anything except field trips and his own promotion, but again, I don't think Brian Billick led the Ravens to a title, either.
            Regarding points 2 & 3, who do you see as those players who will step up and compensate for the lack of talent Dallas has at the coaching positions? We have a bunch of "lead-by-example" guys from what I can tell. But is there a player or two who moves the needle and commands the respect of the entire locker room? I don't think that player exists in Dallas. The 2000 Ravens that you referenced had Ray Lewis and a couple of others who fit that mold.


            Also, I think you aren't giving those past Cowboys teams enough credit. We have had a ton of talent in Dallas the past 10 years. It's just being wasted on average at best coaching and a meddling front office. I'd argue that those 2007, 2009, 2014, and 2016 teams were just as talented as teams that have gone on to conference championship/Super Bowl appearances....Jax (2017), Atlanta (2016), Chicago (2010), and Denver (2015) to name a few.

            You go line by line down the roster and those Cowboys rosters had just as much talent as those teams. The difference is the coaches of those teams pushed the right buttons when it mattered most. Coaching matters immensely in a league driven by roster parity.
            Last edited by 1bigfan13; 06-01-2019, 01:45 PM.

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            • I donít see how people can predict the season when training camp hasnít even started or how they can predict the outcome of how a coach will do without ever seeing a single play run. Thatís a lot of insight or a closed mind.
              Since Day One

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              • Originally posted by L.T. Fan View Post
                I donít see how people can predict the season when training camp hasnít even started or how they can predict the outcome of how a coach will do without ever seeing a single play run. Thatís a lot of insight or a closed mind.
                It's simple pattern analysis.

                The pattern in Dallas hasn't changed so why expect different results?

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                • Originally posted by 1bigfan13 View Post

                  It's simple pattern analysis.

                  The pattern in Dallas hasn't changed so why expect different results?
                  Actually thatís the reason I am am encouraged. The pattern has a change to change this upcoming season.
                  Since Day One

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                  • Originally posted by 1bigfan13 View Post

                    It's simple pattern analysis.

                    The pattern in Dallas hasn't changed so why expect different results?
                    Patterns in the NFL almost never stay the same unless you're the Patruots.

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                    • defense wins championships

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                      • Originally posted by 1bigfan13 View Post
                        Regarding points 2 & 3, who do you see as those players who will step up and compensate for the lack of talent Dallas has at the coaching positions? We have a bunch of "lead-by-example" guys from what I can tell. But is there a player or two who moves the needle and commands the respect of the entire locker room? I don't think that player exists in Dallas. The 2000 Ravens that you referenced had Ray Lewis and a couple of others who fit that mold.


                        Also, I think you aren't giving those past Cowboys teams enough credit. We have had a ton of talent in Dallas the past 10 years. It's just being wasted on average at best coaching and a meddling front office. I'd argue that those 2007, 2009, 2014, and 2016 teams were just as talented as teams that have gone on to conference championship/Super Bowl appearances....Jax (2017), Atlanta (2016), Chicago (2010), and Denver (2015) to name a few.

                        You go line by line down the roster and those Cowboys rosters had just as much talent as those teams. The difference is the coaches of those teams pushed the right buttons when it mattered most. Coaching matters immensely in a league driven by roster parity.
                        Well wait, I wasn't predicting a Superbowl win. I was just saying this team is so talented they could make a deep run despite having an empty suit at HC.

                        Side note though, I do think going down the roster, this team is more talented than the 2007 or 2009 ones. Probably by a fair amount. Only question there is QB, which admittedly is huge. But the book is still open on Dak, and it's not like Romo was Dan Marino anyway.

                        But you mention leadership -- that is something Dak seems to have. Witten has it. I think Jaylon Smith has it. And the Hot Boyz, need I say more?
                        2014=2009, 2015=2010?

                        The Garrett Song

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                          • Originally posted by Iamtdg View Post
                            do you see the date on that tweet?
                            defense wins championships

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                            • Originally posted by p1_ View Post

                              do you see the date on that tweet?
                              Yep, and it's a good reminder that he isn't being used as much as he should be.
                              2016 DCC LOTY Fantasy Football Champion

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                              • Originally posted by Iamtdg View Post

                                Yep, and it's a good reminder that he isn't being used as much as he should be.
                                I am giving this one up because Richard is way too hung up on the length thing. All Lewis can do is keep playing hard when being given his limited opportunities, which I don't see any indication he isn't.

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