TO refuses hall of fame appearance/acceptance

[Iamtdg]

Irvin was reading texts that T.O. had sent him on the air? If so, that's horseshit. You can't do that.

That’s my understanding.

[boozeman]

Owen's needs a big fat hug. No wait. Years of therapy.

[boozeman]

Irvin was reading texts that T.O. had sent him on the air? If so, that's horseshit. You can't do that.

Owen's mistrusts the media, yet he texts a member. Honestly I bet the pair of them are loving the attention.

[shane]

Irvin > Owens

Not as a player.

[Iamtdg]

Not as a player.

I disagree.

[Genghis Khan]

Not as a player.

Totally as a player.

[ravidubey]

Michael Irvin was a great leader when he was good, outstanding talent, hard worker, and the shittiest locker room influence possible once the coke stuff came out and he started to decline.

Owens was a better talent, equally hard worker, and just as shitty as Mike except for most of his career instead of the last two-three years. Owens might have held public workouts in his driveway, but he never stabbed a teammate in the neck or verbally harassed teammates for living normal, non-adulterous lives.

If you think Mike was a better on-field talent, you are letting royal blue and metallic silver cloud your vision. Owens was a fricking explosive beast with double and a third more TDs than Mike. Let that sink in. Mike was great; TO was better. Sorry.

[L.T. Fan]

Michael Irvin was a great leader when he was good, outstanding talent, hard worker, and the shittiest locker room influence possible once the coke stuff came out and he started to decline.

Owens was a better talent, equally hard worker, and just as shitty as Mike except for most of his career instead of the last two-three years. Owens might have held public workouts in his driveway, but he never stabbed a teammate in the neck or verbally harassed teammates for living normal, non-adulterous lives.

If you think Mike was a better on-field talent, you are letting royal blue and metallic silver cloud your vision. Owens was a fricking explosive beast with double and a third more TDs than Mike. Let that sink in. Mike was great; TO was better. Sorry.

The best was Randy Moss and I know this isn’t about him but I just had to get that in.

[Iamtdg]

The best was Randy Moss and I know this isn’t about him but I just had to get that in.

Wrong, The best ever was Jerry Rice.

[Genghis Khan]

Michael Irvin was a great leader when he was good, outstanding talent, hard worker, and the shittiest locker room influence possible once the coke stuff came out and he started to decline.

Owens was a better talent, equally hard worker, and just as shitty as Mike except for most of his career instead of the last two-three years. Owens might have held public workouts in his driveway, but he never stabbed a teammate in the neck or verbally harassed teammates for living normal, non-adulterous lives.

If you think Mike was a better on-field talent, you are letting royal blue and metallic silver cloud your vision. Owens was a fricking explosive beast with double and a third more TDs than Mike. Let that sink in. Mike was great; TO was better. Sorry.

Owens almost always plays in a West coast, extremely pass-heavy offense.

Irvin always played in a run heavy offense.Owens

The volume numbers aren't all that relevant.

Irvin > Owens

[L.T. Fan]

Wrong, The best ever was Jerry Rice.

We will just have to disagree.

[Iamtdg]

We will just have to disagree.

Indeed.

[ravidubey]

Owens almost always plays in a West coast, extremely pass-heavy offense.

Irvin always played in a run heavy offense.Owens

The volume numbers aren't all that relevant.

Irvin > Owens

2006 Cowboys, 506 passes, 472 rush attempts, Owens has 85 (most as a Cowboy) for 1139 and 13 touchdowns. He also played several games with a broken hand, and the first six games Bledsoe was throwing. The next year he gets 9 fewer targets, 81 catches for 1355 and 15 TDs.

Yeah the Romo-led Cowboys passed a lot in 06 and 07, but they ran a lot too.

[pdom]

The best was Randy Moss and I know this isn’t about him but I just had to get that in.

Please elaborate why you think so.

Not patronizing you, I’m genuinely curious why you’ve come to this conclusion. Figured you would’ve said Don Hutson or Jim Thorpe, you old-timer.

[Genghis Khan]

2006 Cowboys, 506 passes, 472 rush attempts, Owens has 85 (most as a Cowboy) for 1139 and 13 touchdowns. He also played several games with a broken hand, and the first six games Bledsoe was throwing. The next year he gets 9 fewer targets, 81 catches for 1355 and 15 TDs.

Yeah the Romo-led Cowboys passed a lot in 06 and 07, but they ran a lot too.

Not sure where you are going with this but it doesn't refute my point one iota.