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  • #31
    That schedule honestly doesn't seem all that daunting, but I'll be pretty surprised if we have as many as 10 wins. We seemingly got worse at several positions, and our depth throughout the roster is pretty spotty.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Genghis Khan View Post
      That schedule honestly doesn't seem all that daunting, but I'll be pretty surprised if we have as many as 10 wins. We seemingly got worse at several positions, and our depth throughout the roster is pretty spotty.
      You also have to factor in that we have the same uninspiring coaching staff. What was our "major" change in the coaching staff this offseason? The QB coach?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by 1bigfan13 View Post
        You also have to factor in that we have the same uninspiring coaching staff. What was our "major" change in the coaching staff this offseason? The QB coach?
        Receivers coach, DBs coach, TE coach...

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        • #34
          Missing the playoffs at 10-6 seems unlikely.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 1bigfan13 View Post
            You also have to factor in that we have the same uninspiring coaching staff. What was our "major" change in the coaching staff this offseason? The QB coach?
            Yep that's also a factor.

            We'll see how the draft shakes out, but I'm guessing we'll be somewhere under .500.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Genghis Khan View Post
              Yep that's also a factor.

              We'll see how the draft shakes out, but I'm guessing we'll be somewhere under .500.
              I'd be very surprised to see us under .500 without a catastrophic injury to Zeke or Dak. We basically dealt with everything that could go wrong last year and still ended up 9-7. I see no way this team is 2 games worse with a focused Zeke.

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              • #37
                I don't think we'll be under .500 either -- or at least we definitely shouldn't be -- but I hardly think last year was an "everything that can go wrong does go wrong" kind of year. We haven't had many season-ending injuries, for one. What if Tyron's back takes him out for the year, or Frederick or Martin blow out a knee.

                And if Dak plays like he did the last month of the year, we won't even need a lot of injuries to flirt with .500.
                2014=2009, 2015=2010?

                The Garrett Song

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Chocolate Lab View Post
                  I don't think we'll be under .500 either -- or at least we definitely shouldn't be -- but I hardly think last year was an "everything that can go wrong does go wrong" kind of year. We haven't had many season-ending injuries, for one. What if Tyron's back takes him out for the year, or Frederick or Martin blow out a knee.

                  And if Dak plays like he did the last month of the year, we won't even need a lot of injuries to flirt with .500.
                  Tyron, Lee, Zeke all missed significant time and they may be the 3 best players on the team. But yes, injuries could be worse.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
                    I'd be very surprised to see us under .500 without a catastrophic injury to Zeke or Dak. We basically dealt with everything that could go wrong last year and still ended up 9-7. I see no way this team is 2 games worse with a focused Zeke.

                    Agree. 10-6 shouldn't be difficult, but like Smitty said, I think we miss the playoffs. Red has made a living getting down on these easy schedules.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
                      I'd be very surprised to see us under .500 without a catastrophic injury to Zeke or Dak. We basically dealt with everything that could go wrong last year and still ended up 9-7. I see no way this team is 2 games worse with a focused Zeke.
                      I think we're a much worse team than last year.

                      We are worse at WR, RB (basically nothing behind Zeke now), OL (possibly), TE, LB (much worse in fact), CB, and S.

                      The wild card is Dak, if he's much better it'll make a big difference, but I'm not counting on that.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Chocolate Lab View Post
                        I don't think we'll be under .500 either -- or at least we definitely shouldn't be -- but I hardly think last year was an "everything that can go wrong does go wrong" kind of year. We haven't had many season-ending injuries, for one. What if Tyron's back takes him out for the year, or Frederick or Martin blow out a knee.

                        And if Dak plays like he did the last month of the year, we won't even need a lot of injuries to flirt with .500.
                        If Dak plays like that again, we'll be way under .500.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Genghis Khan View Post
                          I think we're a much worse team than last year.

                          We are worse at WR, RB (basically nothing behind Zeke now), OL (possibly), TE, LB (much worse in fact), CB, and S.


                          Um what? We return the same corners and safeties as last year. Except that the three excellent prospects from last years draft aren't hurt and aren't rookies right now. Not even sure how you can make that argument.

                          I think you're wrong about OL (Added better players than we lost), RB (16 game Zeke is way better than 10 game Zeke, Morris is all we lost, McFadden didn't even really play last year). Plus we have the draft ahead of us to address LBer (Could easily be better after a draft pick) and WR (I know you have a hard on for Dez but I think the unit will perform better with the addition of a good rookie).

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                          • #43
                            We are losing Scandrick at CB and Jones from safety to corner. There's a real chance that's a downgrade at both positions.

                            We lost Hitchens at LB, and Wilbur too.

                            We lost Cooper at guard and who knows what the plan is there, on top of god only knows what the plan is if/when Tyron gets hurt again.

                            Witten is a year older and presumably declining, Hannah is gone, no idea what Rico brings.

                            WR may well be among the worst in the league.

                            Morris is gone and leaves very little depth at the position.

                            These are all problems that individually could potentially derail a season. Collectively they are the makings of a bad team.

                            That's not even touching on the elephant in the room, the QB who, to put it mildly, has quite a lot to prove. And there's no proven backup there either.

                            They could address a lot of this in the draft and if they do I might feel better about this season, but I think it's dangerous to go into the draft like that.

                            Be Pollyanna all you want but I'm struggling to see a lot of reasons for optimism.

                            As for your shot at me about Dez, I do think he's better than he's getting credit for but I said all along that I'm on board with moving on if he - or any other player for that matter - is adequately replaced. That's just logic, something that apparently escapes you.

                            That's what all this is about; you have to keep your players or adequately replace them. We've been doing neither this offseason and it's a recipe for disaster.

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                            • #44
                              You confuse the loss of JAGs or bad players with real losses. Honestly, I think you're trying too hard to be over the top pesimisstic. When you start saying things like we may have the worst WR corp in the NFL all I can think about are the Joe fans crying over cutting Dez.

                              I don't even think you can really believe that guys like Scandrick leaving or moving Byron Jones away from safety has in any way made those units worse. You're just being dramatic for effect.

                              Alfred Morris was so good no one has signed him. That's actually the exact definition of JAG, a player who is always available to be signed in free agency. Replacement level players aren't losses. Those are the types of guys you should let go.

                              And oh yeah you count Witten getting worse but totally ignore the young guys getting better. Maybe you don't understand the concept of drafting and developing players?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Genghis Khan View Post
                                I think we're a much worse team than last year.

                                We are worse at WR, RB (basically nothing behind Zeke now), OL (possibly), TE, LB (much worse in fact), CB, and S.

                                The wild card is Dak, if he's much better it'll make a big difference, but I'm not counting on that.
                                The draft hasn't happened yet and even so I don't agree with your analysis entirely.

                                I don't think we're necessarily worse at CB. We lost Scandrick but added Jones, that alone may be an improvement. Even if it's not, we get second year improvement from Lewis and Awuzie, who both missed significant time due to injury as well. You also have potential third year improvement from Anthony Brown, and maybe even Marquez White. I think CB is going to be a position of strength for us.

                                Safety is potentially the same story. I'm not so sure that if Xavier Woods and Kavon Frazier grab the starting spots that we are worse off there than when Byron Jones and Jeff Heath were starting. Heath returns to backup safety where he is much better suited as well.

                                I'm not sure we are worse at OL. The only piece we've lost from our starting unit was the worst player in Cooper. We signed a guy at tackle in Fleming who is probably equal to or better than Cooper is at guard. The question is how we will arrange the deck chairs to get the best 5 on the field. Also pending the draft.

                                We aren't great at LB but that was already the case. Hitchens was way overrated and certainly is now tremendously overpaid. Obviously if Lee gets hurt and Jaylon Smith doesn't improve, that position is in bad shape. But if Lee can stay relatively healthy this year, Smith improves, and as I expect we add a LB in the draft early, that position could be better than last year. It would not be a stretch that a second or even third round LB ends up better than Anthony Hitchens relatively early.

                                WR, probably hard to say we aren't worse, but again, you have people arguing here that Bryant was a net negative. Hurns may not be that worse than him. If you add a rookie as well, you may be in a two-is-better than one situation.

                                TE, you could be very wrong there with Gathers. He may end up a much better player than James Hanna.

                                We don't have anything behind Zeke right now but it's backup RB. I'm not that concerned because Zeke never comes off the field and it's not like Morris did anything last year anyway.

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