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Probably.
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DLK150
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Yep, not only this season but maybe next season. They are truly awful, like top five pick awful.
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As they should. That team was retarded for trying to give it one last go with Eli this season in the first place. Eli is a pure liability as a QB. Literally might be the worst NFL starting QB or close to it.
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He can't play.
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If you’re confused by what the Oakland Raiders are doing, you’re not alone.
The players are wondering, as well.
The Raiders made a huge headline Monday when they traded receiver Amari Cooper to the Dallas Cowboys for a first-round pick. That came after Gruden said the Raiders weren’t shopping Cooper.
According to The Athletic’s Vic Tafur, players are miffed not only at the 180 on that stance, but that Gruden didn’t bother telling them about the trade.
‘You have to wonder if we haven’t been playing for draft picks’
At least some of the Raiders’ remaining players, who spoke to Tafur anonymously, aren’t thrilled with what’s going on.
“When what you say and what you do are two different things, there is a problem,” one player told The Athletic.
Gruden didn’t address the team about the trade. Cooper was pulled out of practice, but Gruden didn’t tell his players anything about the deal after practice was done. He did, however, talk to ESPN.
Nothing much has gone right for the Raiders this season. The trade of Khalil Mack to the Chicago Bears is one that will follow Gruden around for a long time. Trading Cooper was much more prudent because they got a first-round pick for a receiver who hasn’t been productive in a long time. But now the Raiders have 10 games left and less hope than ever.
“You have to wonder if we haven’t been playing for draft picks all along,” one player told The Athletic. “Despite everything the coaches told us at training camp.”
Jon Gruden thinking long term
Gruden wants to reshape the roster. He made a ton of moves in the offseason, and the two big trades leave Oakland with five first-round picks over the next two years. He has been ridiculed for many of the moves, but he has some draft capital to work with in future years.
Players on the roster now don’t much care about the long-term plan. Tight end Lee Smith went on the record to talk about that.
“Guys don’t work their ass off year-round because they are worried about the team being good in two or three years, they work hard to win. Now,” Smith said. “Nobody was happy when we traded Khalil. And nobody is happy that we traded Amari. How could you be? You never ever want to trade elite, homegrown talent. But Coach Gruden is thinking long term.”
The rest of the season could be very uncomfortable, and it’s possible the Raiders aren’t done making moves.
“The Mack trade was a real stiff jab,” a Raiders player told Tafur. “But the Cooper one was like a knockout punch, especially because we had just walked back in the door from the bye. We didn’t want to believe it was coming, and Coach said we weren’t going to trade him.”
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Gruden might want to be careful. Sounds like he might lose the team completely before he can start cashing in on all those draft picks.
I guess if the team gives up, that'll help his tanking operation. But will they buy back in next year?
The players are wondering, as well.
The Raiders made a huge headline Monday when they traded receiver Amari Cooper to the Dallas Cowboys for a first-round pick. That came after Gruden said the Raiders weren’t shopping Cooper.
According to The Athletic’s Vic Tafur, players are miffed not only at the 180 on that stance, but that Gruden didn’t bother telling them about the trade.
‘You have to wonder if we haven’t been playing for draft picks’
At least some of the Raiders’ remaining players, who spoke to Tafur anonymously, aren’t thrilled with what’s going on.
“When what you say and what you do are two different things, there is a problem,” one player told The Athletic.
Gruden didn’t address the team about the trade. Cooper was pulled out of practice, but Gruden didn’t tell his players anything about the deal after practice was done. He did, however, talk to ESPN.
Nothing much has gone right for the Raiders this season. The trade of Khalil Mack to the Chicago Bears is one that will follow Gruden around for a long time. Trading Cooper was much more prudent because they got a first-round pick for a receiver who hasn’t been productive in a long time. But now the Raiders have 10 games left and less hope than ever.
“You have to wonder if we haven’t been playing for draft picks all along,” one player told The Athletic. “Despite everything the coaches told us at training camp.”
Jon Gruden thinking long term
Gruden wants to reshape the roster. He made a ton of moves in the offseason, and the two big trades leave Oakland with five first-round picks over the next two years. He has been ridiculed for many of the moves, but he has some draft capital to work with in future years.
Players on the roster now don’t much care about the long-term plan. Tight end Lee Smith went on the record to talk about that.
“Guys don’t work their ass off year-round because they are worried about the team being good in two or three years, they work hard to win. Now,” Smith said. “Nobody was happy when we traded Khalil. And nobody is happy that we traded Amari. How could you be? You never ever want to trade elite, homegrown talent. But Coach Gruden is thinking long term.”
The rest of the season could be very uncomfortable, and it’s possible the Raiders aren’t done making moves.
“The Mack trade was a real stiff jab,” a Raiders player told Tafur. “But the Cooper one was like a knockout punch, especially because we had just walked back in the door from the bye. We didn’t want to believe it was coming, and Coach said we weren’t going to trade him.”
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Gruden might want to be careful. Sounds like he might lose the team completely before he can start cashing in on all those draft picks.
I guess if the team gives up, that'll help his tanking operation. But will they buy back in next year?
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He probably thinks the guys who will quit because he didn't inform them of this or that don't need to be in the long term plans anyway.
The only thing I've heard is some talk that the Raiders are extremely cash-poor as NFL teams go, and will be until they move. Of course Bowl Cut Davis might be the least-rich owner in the NFL, and that stadium in Oakland is an absolute dump and they don't make nearly as much money off it as other teams with newer stadiums. So the thinking is they just need to get by for a couple of years. IOW, ownership is probably behind this more than Gruden.
The only thing I've heard is some talk that the Raiders are extremely cash-poor as NFL teams go, and will be until they move. Of course Bowl Cut Davis might be the least-rich owner in the NFL, and that stadium in Oakland is an absolute dump and they don't make nearly as much money off it as other teams with newer stadiums. So the thinking is they just need to get by for a couple of years. IOW, ownership is probably behind this more than Gruden.
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Well you cant just fire someone when you want to. Its a process.
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What a sixth rounder.
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Is it really worth it if he is always injured?
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